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  • Steve
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    Dirk is a great player, but I think you're getting ahead of yourself comparing him to one of the all time greats like Bird.


    1 one 1, Kobe would still thrash Dirk.

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  • mustang_marc
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    Yeah. How soon we forget. Bird has 3 rings, 12-time AllStar, 3-time NBA MVP, 2-time NBA Final MVP.

    I think Dirk is great, and MVP material this year, but let's pull in the reins a little.

    For the record, I said I thought the Mavs would win last night, but NOT the way they did it! Outstanding job.
    I'm old enough and have been a fan of the NBA long enough to have seen Bird play. Dude was impressive as hell. He also had McHale and Parrish to help. Dirk makes everyone else around him better, but what he does on his own sometimes...is otherwordly. I'm not knocking Bird at all, but Dirk is a notch above in my book.

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  • mstng86
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    Originally posted by BERT View Post
    So that takes away from Bird being a bad mother fucker?
    Not at all. he was the shit in his day. Just saying he was able to do some of his stuff because of the heat being taken off of him while dealing with other players on those teams.

    Seriously, Dirk has had Nash(pre MVP level), Finley, Jason Terry, and that is it. Nash may be a hall of famer but he wasn't at the time of him being with Dallas. Bird had Mchale, Parrish, and I think Johnson.

    I am just saying the talent levels of their teammates really play into how the achievements of Bird and Nowitzki differ.

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  • Rick Modena
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    I'm just trying to keep everyone grounded around here, that's all. Numbers don't lie, and Bird has serious numbers.
    I don't think anyone here is making statistical comparisons, but more of a clutch player making all the right moves at the right time. Just like Bird used to do. I know enough of BB and back in the day when all we had was Bird vs Magic and it seemed like Dirk was making Bird like moves. And even Magic himself said last night (post game) that hes Bird like...

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  • BERT
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    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    Numbers don't tell the whole story though. Those Celtics teams would wipe the floor with the mavs of the 90's. Bird had way more talent around him the Dirk ever did.


    So that takes away from Bird being a bad mother fucker?

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  • mstng86
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    I'm just trying to keep everyone grounded around here, that's all. Numbers don't lie, and Bird has serious numbers.
    Numbers don't tell the whole story though. Those Celtics teams would wipe the floor with the mavs of the 90's. Bird had way more talent around him the Dirk ever did.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Randy - dirk already has one MVP, and it's damn near a lock for MVP this season. Don't get me wrong... Byrd is a machine, but that gap isn't as big as you might think. Listen to norm's show today. He's got some crazy situational stats, that will surprise you.

    Darantula - turnovers aren't what won that ball game. Dallas turned it over a fuck ton too. Harden fouling out, and Westbrook's bad decisions lost that game, its as simple as that. It's difficult being right ALL the fucking time you know.... I need to surf around and find What Durant had to say post game.
    I'm just trying to keep everyone grounded around here, that's all. Numbers don't lie, and Bird has serious numbers.

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  • Rick Modena
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    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    After Haywood knocked the shit out of Durant, Durant didn't look the same. Anyone see how much he nursed his wrist after that?
    "You come into the paint all crazy and shit, sometimes bad things can happens to you."...Shaq

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  • Rick Modena
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    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    It sounds like after he hit a three to go up 15 points he went to the bench and did the Aaron Rodgers championship belt move.
    I got up to get me a bowl of pineapple sherbet and completly missed that, thats what those queers get!

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  • mstng86
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    Derek Harper made a really good point just now on the radio.

    After Haywood knocked the shit out of Durant, Durant didn't look the same. Anyone see how much he nursed his wrist after that?

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  • Rick Modena
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    If I had to pick the game changer last night, it would be the Matrix, hes the reason we went to OT and also the reason we won, not to take anything away from Birk (Dirk+Bird=Birk) Kidd or Da Jet, but this man made it possible for all the others to shine...

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  • pHILSANITY07
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    Originally posted by papapepper View Post
    Another x2 lol Hockey is the fucking shit.
    yea buddy

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  • papapepper
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    Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
    Go mavs! Hockey does not suck! My second fav. sport just behind Dallas Mavs Bball!
    Another x2 lol Hockey is the fucking shit.

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  • papapepper
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    Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post
    Marion stole the ball @ 105-105 then Dirk passed it to Kidd for a 3 that killed their spirit and won the game IMO.
    x2.... That was a great game to watch. Congratulation Mavericks fans!


    First the Rangers make it to the world series..... Now Mavericks to the Finals.... Will this be the Cowboys year as well?

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  • Rick Modena
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    I have not listened to talk radio since circa 1997, that was about the time all these fuck nuts jumped off the Cowboy bandwagon and they have not done anything but talk shit since. So now, Im all like fuck'em!

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