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  • Forever_frost
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    I always place the mission first. My mission was put first, to the detriment of my life, my health and mental stability.

    So back to the original statement. Burning Bibles, a holy book which offends millions is fine, burning a Koran which offends millions is bad. Just checking

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  • exlude
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    This was not a combat decision, this was a decision to avoid offending one group while having no problem with offending another. Yes, I see burning bible and have a mental meltdown but at least I don't firebomb offices who put up pictures of Jesus in a cartoon.

    The Bibles could have easily been stored in the chapel for use by those who wished to use them. There was no reason to burn them. Oddly enough, I remember everyone throwing a fit about a koran burning in Florida talking about how it'd offend someone and shouldn't be done, but you can't muster the empathy to see how this could be offensive to a huge swath of people and shouldn't be done?

    It's not a combat decision, it's a command decision that was poorly made.
    As I said, and bcoop reiterated, it was a "command decision in combat". The Bibles were meant to be distributed to Afghanis. I can see now how you and the church would be having a fit if the military kept them for their personal use, instead of distributing them. Nevermind they were in Pastu or Dari which I'm sure a whole 4 or 5 people in a batallion can read, if that.

    I still don't know how many times I need to repeat the difference in mission impacts to you.

    How's the warrior ethos start? "I will always place my feelings first"?

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  • racrguy
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    FF, they could not have been used by those that wanted, they were printed in local dialects. (I can't recall what they are off the top of my head, phone posting)

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by ceyko View Post
    It's easy to see it implied in post 83, second sentence.
    "command decisions in combat" does not equate to combat decision.

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  • ceyko
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    nobody said it was
    It's easy to see it implied in post 83, second sentence.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    This was not a combat decision,
    nobody said it was

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by exlude View Post
    I actually meant to say young specialist in the rear with zero command experience.

    It's easy to arm chair quarterback command decisions in combat, especially when you only have partial pictures.

    The Bibles were burned because we cannot and will not spread gospel as part of our mission. The Koran is not burned because it negatively impacts our mission if we do. Notice the focus on the mission, not your feelings?
    This was not a combat decision, this was a decision to avoid offending one group while having no problem with offending another. Yes, I see burning bible and have a mental meltdown but at least I don't firebomb offices who put up pictures of Jesus in a cartoon.

    The Bibles could have easily been stored in the chapel for use by those who wished to use them. There was no reason to burn them. Oddly enough, I remember everyone throwing a fit about a koran burning in Florida talking about how it'd offend someone and shouldn't be done, but you can't muster the empathy to see how this could be offensive to a huge swath of people and shouldn't be done?

    It's not a combat decision, it's a command decision that was poorly made.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by StanleyJustinTaliwhacker95 View Post



    .... so... familiar... now where, oh where, have I seen this before...hmmm... I'll have to think on it for a while...

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    oh and bcoop to come charging in on his big gay steed (naked) to sweep you off your feet in 3...2...1...
    For the record, I've exposed you for the brainless window licker that you are, many times over. YOU are the only one here delusional enough to believe that you've ever won any sort of argument, with any board member here. Say what you will. No sweat off my back. Just remember, there's an 8+ page thread full of backwards ass retarded StanleyTweedlisms. That's not a compliment, FWIW.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by exlude View Post
    I actually meant to say young specialist in the rear with zero command experience.

    It's easy to arm chair quarterback command decisions in combat, especially when you only have partial pictures.

    The Bibles were burned because we cannot and will not spread gospel as part of our mission. The Koran is not burned because it negatively impacts our mission if we do. Notice the focus on the mission, not your feelings?
    He doesn't get it, he's incapable of getting it. All he sees is "burning bible" and his mind goes into meltdown mode. After that happens he puts on his "persecuted christian" hat and comes here to DFWM and starts spewing illogical garbage.

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  • exlude
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    You mean according to me, young specialist with combat experience.
    I actually meant to say young specialist in the rear with zero command experience.

    It's easy to arm chair quarterback command decisions in combat, especially when you only have partial pictures.

    The Bibles were burned because we cannot and will not spread gospel as part of our mission. The Koran is not burned because it negatively impacts our mission if we do. Notice the focus on the mission, not your feelings?

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by exlude View Post
    According to you, young Specialist in the rear.
    You mean according to me, young specialist with combat experience. Were this the Koran it'd never have a fire NEAR it. I demand teh same rights and courtesies that are given the Muslims.

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  • exlude
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    And it was a wrong call.
    According to you, young Specialist in the rear.

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  • Forever_frost
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    And it was a wrong call.

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  • exlude
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    There are provisions for burning a flag to dispose of it, written into the flag code. There is no provisions for burning a holy book ON A MILITARY INSTALLATION. If they didn't want it, it could have been handled like everything else religious and put in the chapel. Command could have also easily have told those thieves who go through your mail at the APO checkpoint and steal your electronics, not to let cases of Bibles through.

    There is zero excuse for this. Where did you find a protocol for burning the Bible? I've yet to find it.
    I'm sure the commanders were real concerned with what would be coming through the mail while fighting a war on the ground. It was a call made by a commander to burn them after they got here, oh well. The Church shouldn't have tried to use the military as a platform for their gospel.

    I used Google.

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  • SMEGMA STENCH
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    You seriously need to a get a grip.
    Libtards, unite!

    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Every time someone debates with you, you say,"Nu-uh!" and repeat what you previously said, ignoring the other person.
    .... so... familiar... now where, oh where, have I seen this before...hmmm... I'll have to think on it for a while...

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    oh and bcoop to come charging in on his big gay steed (naked) to sweep you off your feet in 3...2...1...

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