No Bibles at Walter Reed

[Forever_frost]

And yet you two schmucks can't debate that I'm wrong. Burn a bible, you're fine. Burn a Koran and you lose rank and get an angry letter from Obama.

[exlude]

How's that grip?

Paranoid and short sighted.

[racrguy]

*yawn*

Edit: I need to find smarter people to argue with, FF here doesn't even keep me on my toes and make me actually think about what I'm posting because the faults in his logic are so glaringly obvious.

[Forever_frost]

Actually, I read the whole thing. Several times as I wasn't sure if you were that dense or if it was my medication making me read wrong. No, you're that dense. Burning Bibles? Get some JP8 and a flare. Burning Korans? You get court martial-ed and the president denounces the action

How's that grip?

[racrguy]

You seriously need to a get a grip.

un-fucking-possible

Racr, you don't see the issue because you, as a liberal, will defend everyone BUT Christians. They were against the rules, so you box them back up and return them. As someone who's seen how we handle the Koran overseas, I know what we'd have done if they had been the Koran. They'd have been taken to an Imam and we'd have included a huge chunk of money for 'unclean' people touching their holy book. Or do you not remember the HUGE outrage from Obama and liberals at one preacher burning the Koran in Florida?

Burn a Bible, keep blessings out of military funerals, and saying the Bible explicitly, cannot be brought into Walter Reed establishes a chain of evidence towards a conclusion.

You seriously need to a get a grip.

[racrguy]

You didn't read my whole post. You stopped at "They don't give two fucks about your book or anyone elses." Pull your head out of your ass.

[Forever_frost]

And right there is where you're wrong. The military gives a whole of of thought as to how the Koran is treated. As someone who's been briefed on how to treat it and had to sit through classes on Islam, I think I have superior knowledge on this one. If you're caught destroying a Koran, in the military, you get hammered. My knowledge is based on actual service, training and experience.

What's yours sparky?

[racrguy]

So they were concerned about that but not about offending Christians and our holy book?

Way to ignore everything I said.... The military doesn't give two fucks about your holy book, or anyone elses. The only reason they supposedly treated the Koran your talking about with kid gloves is because it's a means to an end. There was an agenda there (to get the cooperation of the natives) otherwise they'd have just done away with them just like they did here. The bibles were more trouble than they were worth, so they just discarded them.

[Forever_frost]

So they were concerned about that but not about offending Christians and our holy book?

[racrguy]

Racr, you don't see the issue because you, as a liberal, will defend everyone BUT Christians. They were against the rules, so you box them back up and return them. As someone who's seen how we handle the Koran overseas, I know what we'd have done if they had been the Koran. They'd have been taken to an Imam and we'd have included a huge chunk of money for 'unclean' people touching their holy book. Or do you not remember the HUGE outrage from Obama and liberals at one preacher burning the Koran in Florida?

Burn a Bible, keep blessings out of military funerals, and saying the Bible explicitly, cannot be brought into Walter Reed establishes a chain of evidence towards a conclusion.

And you, being an uneducable right-winger, see an issue where there is none. I will not defend everyone BUT christians. I dislike their religion more than I do yours, but because we don't have any muslims here talking about it, all you see is me attacking christianity. They weren't sent back because then they could be construed as coming from the government, as the liaison said.

Military officers considered sending the Bibles back to the church, he said, but they worried the church would turn around and send them to another organization in Afghanistan -- giving the impression that they had been distributed by the U.S. government.

Yes, I remember the stink about burning the Koran. And I could give two shits about that guy burning the Koran, all he did was proven how moronic he is. And he is well within his rights to do both. Did you read the whole article you posted? It says "No religious materials" (followed by examples.) Religious materials is INCLUSIVE of the Bible, Koran, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or ANY other holy book.

[Forever_frost]

Racr, you don't see the issue because you, as a liberal, will defend everyone BUT Christians. They were against the rules, so you box them back up and return them. As someone who's seen how we handle the Koran overseas, I know what we'd have done if they had been the Koran. They'd have been taken to an Imam and we'd have included a huge chunk of money for 'unclean' people touching their holy book. Or do you not remember the HUGE outrage from Obama and liberals at one preacher burning the Koran in Florida?

Burn a Bible, keep blessings out of military funerals, and saying the Bible explicitly, cannot be brought into Walter Reed establishes a chain of evidence towards a conclusion.

[racrguy]

Yes, I did read why they were confiscated. Tell me, think they would have burned the Koran? Or would that have upset someone?

There you go, with your whole "THEY'RE PERSECUTIN' CHRISTIANS AGAIN!" line of talk. Yes, they would. Do you not realize that the person that 1) confiscated the books and 2) told the soldier that had them shipped to him that it was against the rules was a chaplain? Quit being so dense. Rules say members of the military are not allowed to proselytize. Those books were printed in Pashto and Dari, to be handed out to locals. against the rules. They don't give two shits if you worship God, Allah, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, it's not allowed.

Why did they burn the books? All trash must be burned, and the books were "thrown away."

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. Let's not forget, the incident you're talking about happened in 2008, before Obama took office, so that angle I imagine you're going to try to take is shot as well.

[Forever_frost]

Yes, I did read why they were confiscated. Tell me, think they would have burned the Koran? Or would that have upset someone?

[racrguy]

Combine the latest incident with the burning of Bibles on a military base by the box and the banning of saying God Bless at military funerals and you get a very clear view of who this is aimed at.

Did you happen to read why they were burned, or what they were confiscated for in the first place?