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As we pointed out, the KCAL 9 report — the one with a local reporter caught in the crossfire — contains audio from police saying "fucking burn this motherfucker." And now there's video from CBS News:
And The Guardian's Paul Owen points us to an unconfirmed recording of the police scanner on Tuesday. In the recording, there's this piece of dialogue:
All right, Steve, we're gonna go, er, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with, er, with the burn [or burner]. We want it, er, like we talked about.
Journalist Max Blumenthal heard something similar:
Hard to decipher on San Bernadino Sheriff scanner now: "We're gonna go ahead w/the plan w/the burner... Like we talked about."
— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) February 12, 2013
And according to the Los Angeles Times, a source in law enforcement makes it seem like the SWAT team was trying any means necessary to get into the cabin, then stopped their entry once the big flames arrived:
According to a law enforcement source, police had broken down windows, fired tear gas into the cabin and blasted over a loud speaker, urging Dorner to surrender. When they got no response, police deployed a vehicle to rip down the walls of the cabin "one by one, like peeling an onion," a law enforcement official said.
By the time they got to the last wall, authorities heard a single gunshot, the source said. Then flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard.
The Times adds that highly flammable gas was a kind of last resort:
Hoping to end the standoff, law enforcement authorities first lobbed "traditional" tear gas into the cabin. When that did not work, they opted to use CS gas canisters, which are known in law enforcement parlance as incendiary tear gas. These canisters have significantly more chance of starting a fire. This gas can cause humans to have burning eyes and start to feel as if they are being starved for oxygen. It is often used to drive barricaded individuals out.
Meanwhile, CNN is sticking by its law enforcement sources, which say "smoke devices" thrown inside by the police caught fire, giving way to the narrative that police, at that point, had no choice but to let the cabin burn.
As we pointed out, the KCAL 9 report — the one with a local reporter caught in the crossfire — contains audio from police saying "fucking burn this motherfucker." And now there's video from CBS News:
And The Guardian's Paul Owen points us to an unconfirmed recording of the police scanner on Tuesday. In the recording, there's this piece of dialogue:
All right, Steve, we're gonna go, er, we're gonna go forward with the plan, with, er, with the burn [or burner]. We want it, er, like we talked about.
Journalist Max Blumenthal heard something similar:
Hard to decipher on San Bernadino Sheriff scanner now: "We're gonna go ahead w/the plan w/the burner... Like we talked about."
— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) February 12, 2013
And according to the Los Angeles Times, a source in law enforcement makes it seem like the SWAT team was trying any means necessary to get into the cabin, then stopped their entry once the big flames arrived:
According to a law enforcement source, police had broken down windows, fired tear gas into the cabin and blasted over a loud speaker, urging Dorner to surrender. When they got no response, police deployed a vehicle to rip down the walls of the cabin "one by one, like peeling an onion," a law enforcement official said.
By the time they got to the last wall, authorities heard a single gunshot, the source said. Then flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard.
The Times adds that highly flammable gas was a kind of last resort:
Hoping to end the standoff, law enforcement authorities first lobbed "traditional" tear gas into the cabin. When that did not work, they opted to use CS gas canisters, which are known in law enforcement parlance as incendiary tear gas. These canisters have significantly more chance of starting a fire. This gas can cause humans to have burning eyes and start to feel as if they are being starved for oxygen. It is often used to drive barricaded individuals out.
Meanwhile, CNN is sticking by its law enforcement sources, which say "smoke devices" thrown inside by the police caught fire, giving way to the narrative that police, at that point, had no choice but to let the cabin burn.
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