ISIS chop off 21 heads

[Denny]

It's just about go time. Get your popcorn ready and pick your side.

[GhostTX]

Well...not to worry. ISIS isn't the real threat to America:

Homeland Security Warns of Terrorist Threat from Right-Wingers
Threat from right-wing anti-government groups could be "greater" than threat from foreign Islamic terrorists
...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/terror-threat-homeland-security/

[ceyko]

Yeah and a quick google shows that there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world and if only 7% are extremists that is 112 million. So only 112-160 million are extremists.

That's assuming a 7-10% of course, which I don't think we have any real stats. That also does not include sympathizers/other supporters of them.

Hell at 1%, there are 16million.

I'm not sure their (terrorists) growth rate either but I'd guess that we're going to lose that war killing them off with small groups at a time...etc at very high costs.

I do not consider myself paranoid either by believing that there are terrorists in all levels of government and other aspects of the daily running of the US. (Water, electric...etc)

[GhostTX]

To expand upon that; sure, there are many Muslims that would never carry out these horrific acts, but they aren't necessarily upset that there are others taking care of Allah's dirty work (whether they voice disapproval or not).

[Denny]

They call it a holy war because they know the 'civilized world' doesn't have the moral turpitude to respond in kind. They also know Mecca and Medina are safe while they destroy the holy sites of every other religion

To expand upon that; sure, there are many Muslims that would never carry out these horrific acts, but they aren't necessarily upset that there are others taking care of Allah's dirty work (whether they voice disapproval or not).

[Forever_frost]

They call it a holy war because they know the 'civilized world' doesn't have the moral turpitude to respond in kind. They also know Mecca and Medina are safe while they destroy the holy sites of every other religion

[Gasser64]

Bomb Mecca and Medina into total oblivian. Go in and scatter Beer and hog lard over everything. No use in the rag heads getting the fresh pussy.

Since they have to know that something like this, is actually something their enemies could do, I'm curious as to why they call it a holy war.

Seems like it would better be described as a holy "get naked and walk up and sucker punch a bee hive and hope you don't get stung".

[FastFox]

Bomb Mecca and Medina into total oblivian. Go in and scatter Beer and hog lard over everything. No use in the rag heads getting the fresh pussy.

[Strychnine]

I don't really know shit, so don't think I'm trying to pick fights here.

Matthew 15:4-7 is referencing Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (KJV)

He's not repeating the Deuteronomy verse to the pharisees with intentions of having them kill. He's calling them hypocrites for only following portions of the law and nullifying others... but above that he is speaking to legalistic people who do not believe in Him as their savior. Having not accepted Him in that way, they have not entered into that new covenant whereby they would receive grace.

Traditions and Commandments

15 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” 3 He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ 5 But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, “What you would have gained from me is given to God,”[a] 6 he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word[b] of God. 7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said:

8 “‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
9 in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

Matthew 5:28-29 is specifically referencing the 10 commandments,

OT commandments that Jesus is commanding being upheld or chastising people for not upholding.

You can expect better of people while still showing grace and mercy. That's the beauty of forgiveness. One transgression does not instantly and eternally lead to damnation. If my dog digs a hole in the backyard I don't take him to the pound and walk away from him.

I believe the point there is that you should try to be pure of mind as well as action.

By the time of Jesus, the religion of Israel, as taught be its religious leaders, had degenerated into legalism. Salvation was said to come through obedience to the Ten Commandments and hundreds of other rules. Jesus, however, taught a religion of the "heart" - love for all people and purity of attitudes, thoughts and actions. Jesus severely criticized the corrupt religion of His time. He said the religious leaders observed the letter of the Law of Moses but ignored its spirit

Per The Commandments you should not commit the act, but per Matthew 5:27 you should honor the spirit of the commandment also and recognize your thoughts as well and be mindful to not start down the path that leads to destruction.

In the end, strive to be as good as you can be and follow the example of Jesus. You will stumble, and you are not perfect, but you are forgiven and will be as long as you do not turn your back.

[racrguy]

Back up one verse and start at Matthew 5:17 - the part about fulfilling. Then review Galatians 3, Hebrews 10:11-18, Hebrews 9:15, John 14:15-16, Galatians 2:16-21, etc

How do you reconcile that with Matthew 15:4-7 (KJV), or Matthew 5:28-29 (KJV)? Both of those are OT commandments that Jesus is commanding being upheld or chastising people for not upholding. Matthew 5:28-29 is specifically referencing the 10 commandments, and Matthew 15:4-7 is referencing Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (KJV) both of which are in the Old Testament. If a mangod had come to fulfill those particular laws, wouldn't the proper reaction be "Don't worry about that, I've got it taken care of"? Obviously the wording would be different, but that's the jist of the statement that would be made.

[jasone]

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

You mean the part where he accomplished the prophecy by dying and being resurrected? That accomplished thing?

The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The earth hasn't disappeared. Wouldn't that imply that the old testament rules are still supposed to be followed?

[jasone]

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

You mean the part where he accomplished the prophecy by dying and being resurrected? That accomplished thing?

But isn't one of the messianic prophecies that he will bring peace to the earth?

Wouldn't that mean that all the prophecies haven't been fulfilled yet?

[Denny]

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

You mean the part where he accomplished the prophecy by dying and being resurrected? That accomplished thing?

He even said the exact time it was accomplished.

[Forever_frost]

Matthew 5:18-19, that's Jesus telling you that you have to obey the law, and in biblical terms the law is the OT.

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

You mean the part where he accomplished the prophecy by dying and being resurrected? That accomplished thing?

[Strychnine]

Matthew 5:18-19, that's Jesus telling you that you have to obey the law, and in biblical terms the law is the OT.

Back up one verse and start at Matthew 5:17 - the part about fulfilling. Then review Galatians 3, Hebrews 10:11-18, Hebrews 9:15, John 14:15-16, Galatians 2:16-21, etc