Senate approves open carry on party-line vote

[Cobraman]

The guns I would carry OWB are painfully obvious under a shirt. I'd rather just carry what I want how I want.

Hell yale what are you trying to carry, a Python?

[YALE]

c'mon yale we both know OWB =/= open carry. You can easy carry any owb gun and just have a shirt over it. You basically said that on Fb.

The guns I would carry OWB are painfully obvious under a shirt. I'd rather just carry what I want how I want.

[Cobraman]

everything is negligible to you it seems. you asked for a benefit to oc, and there is one.

if you were a criminal looking to rob someone at a gas station, are you going to go after the guy with a gun on his hip, or someone without? how is concealed carry a deterrent if nobody can see what you have?

i can say carrying on campus is negligible, because in the grand scheme of things, shootings dont happen that often at a school.

Everything is negligible except the downsides to oc. Places are going to start fixing their signage after complaints - and if places can see guns they are going to get complaints--> being asked to leave/cover up guns which equals verbal notice aka you have to leave. This is going to have the same effect OC Texas had. Places are going to start banning guns and people are going to be dumbasses to managers and police and make a terrible name for us more than OC TX was able to do before. What did their OC movements do? Cause more places to shun and ban lawful armed citizens like us. Sure this isn't going to be the case all the time- but it wouldn't happen if you just pull a shirt over your gun and go about your day. Nobody is bothered, you don't have to deal with police encounters, or other bs. I don't have to hear on the news that some neckbeard causes a huge scene in public over OC and makes the public frown even more on the rights we have AND Suddenly now I can't legally carry AT ALL into XYZ place or restaurant because some dumbass couldn't keep his shit or his mouth to himself.

Nobody can give a valid reason to the benefit of OC over CC. The Deterrence factor goes two ways and is crap anyway. Two guys in philly robbed a gamestop with a damn uniformed cop inside, just stuck around to kill him, and left. If somebody robs the store i'm in, I'd like the element of surprise not being the first guy shot.

[Cobraman]

It's more comfortable to carry OWB. If I can do that, I do it. OWB>IWB.

c'mon yale we both know OWB =/= open carry. You can easy carry any owb gun and just have a shirt over it. You basically said that on Fb.

[dsrtuckteezy]

everything is negligible to you it seems. you asked for a benefit to oc, and there is one.

if you were a criminal looking to rob someone at a gas station, are you going to go after the guy with a gun on his hip, or someone without? how is concealed carry a deterrent if nobody can see what you have?

i can say carrying on campus is negligible, because in the grand scheme of things, shootings dont happen that often at a school.

[YALE]

It's more comfortable to carry OWB. If I can do that, I do it. OWB>IWB.

[Cobraman]

deterrent?

The number of people that are going to oc is so low that the deterrence factor is negligible- concealed carry is supposed to be a deterrent but nobody carries and criminals will take their chances. You can also factor that with the whole "you will be the first one shot" arguement

[dsrtuckteezy]

deterrent?

[Cobraman]

So because people are scared of guns, we should be forced to hide them?
Personally, I'm for more rights and the option to carry how I feel necessary.

What is one true benefit of carrying open vs. Concealed? Other than the "it is my right"

[HarrisonTX]

So because people are scared of guns, we should be forced to hide them?
Personally, I'm for more rights and the option to carry how I feel necessary.

[Cobraman]

Why would you want less rights?

there is no reason for it. Any gun can be carried concealed. Faster draw is negligible at best. All oc does is bring out the oc Texas assholes, make businesses start to enforce 30.06 and give notice (BC now they can see guns) which limits carry, and freaks people out causing police interaction and situations completely unnecessary.

[LANTIRN]

Come on campus carry. I hope oc doesn't pass.

Go to california you fucking hippie.

[HarrisonTX]

Come on campus carry. I hope oc doesn't pass.

Why would you want less rights?

[Cobraman]

Come on campus carry. I hope oc doesn't pass.

[YALE]

This is the bill with the best shot of passing the house. It also leaves a minimum standard in place, which is nice.