Senate approves open carry on party-line vote

[Cobraman]

I think he's referring to your hypocritical statement that he quoted.

What does method of carry have anything to do with were you can carry?

It isn't hypocritical - and even less so because campus is excluded from the oc bill in it's current form. I hate the mindset that if you are a 2nd amendment supporter you have to be for EVERY little provision that is proposed. I conceal carry all day everyday - the only place I cannot arm myself that I have to go is to school. That is a much bigger problem (gun free zones) than being able to strap on your N frame and go to whataburger. Sure it isn't a popular opinion, but it is held by some - and some that are too pussy to speak up about it for fear of the pulse of the neckbeards and ineedzalltharights!!! Crowds.

[racrguy]

What, because I have an opinion different than yours? I thought that is what this site was all about. This isn't the first occasion where you come in and insult me vs. Adding to a constructive arguement. ad hominem at its finest.

What he said is not an ad hominem.... An ad hominem is when someone tries to invalidate an argument based on a character flaw of the person that made the argument. For example, if I were to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about because you're 21, THAT'S an ad hom. If I just told you that you're a douche, that's not an ad hom. If you're going to throw out the names of logical fallacies, it'd do you well to learn what they are.

[shumpertdavid]

I find it interesting, people dont see what they arent looking for. My wife and I were at lunch one day, and a couple of guys walked in and past by our table on the way to be seated. I dont know what type of LEO they were, but both had a badge on their belt, along with a holstered gun. I noticed, and she didnt.

I think that goes back to the Sheep, Wolf, Sheep Dog mentality.

[Denny]

What, because I have an opinion different than yours? I thought that is what this site was all about. This isn't the first occasion where you come in and insult me vs. Adding to a constructive arguement. ad hominem at its finest.

I think he's referring to your hypocritical statement that he quoted.

[Cobraman]

You are the biggest fucking douche.

What, because I have an opinion different than yours? I thought that is what this site was all about. This isn't the first occasion where you come in and insult me vs. Adding to a constructive arguement. ad hominem at its finest.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Oh, I agree. I merely was pointing out the change in the law. There's lots of CHL folk that aren't aware of that change and are still paranoid about the printing or OMG-I-reached-for-the-top-shelf-and-exposed-it-and-now-I'll-go-to-jail.


Probably more for the liberals to mentally prepare than DPS.

I find it interesting, people dont see what they arent looking for. My wife and I were at lunch one day, and a couple of guys walked in and past by our table on the way to be seated. I dont know what type of LEO they were, but both had a badge on their belt, along with a holstered gun. I noticed, and she didnt.

[GhostTX]

I guess you arent going to jail, but it damn sure can make a scene, you still have to hang out and wait for the police, or (as witnessed in the viral walmart video) some wannabe hero can take you down and detain you for no reason.

That sure sounds like a penalty that this law will essentially eliminate.

Oh, I agree. I merely was pointing out the change in the law. There's lots of CHL folk that aren't aware of that change and are still paranoid about the printing or OMG-I-reached-for-the-top-shelf-and-exposed-it-and-now-I'll-go-to-jail.

What do they need to prepare for? Seeing guns? That makes no sense to me. Maybe just a way to push it back a little farther

Probably more for the liberals to mentally prepare than DPS.

[YALE]

Yale, Imma need me a hip cannon!

Say the word, Cochise!

[racrguy]

Damn Sean, right the fuck on.
I just like having more options.

Yeah man. I don't have a CHL, and I don't really care for one. However, I do like having the option to do more shit that isn't a crime. We've got entirely too much shit codified that doesn't need to be, whether I want to engage in those activities or not.

My goodness, I think this is the 2nd time this year I've agreed with something you've posted. I should probably visit a therapist to make sure I'm not losing it, either that or you're finally making more sense.

The things I say always make sense, you just don't always agree with them.

[ceyko]

Why are the reasons given not valid? You can't just claim a justification for something as invalid without proper reasoning. Most thefts and robberies are crimes of opportunity. If you raise the opportunity cost too high for those people, which seeing another person armed could do, you will avert an incident before it even gets off the ground. Nobody is telling you that you HAVE to OC, they're merely giving you the option. If you don't want to, where do you get off telling other people that they can't?

My goodness, I think this is the 2nd time this year I've agreed with something you've posted. I should probably visit a therapist to make sure I'm not losing it, either that or you're finally making more sense.

[inline 6]

Come on campus carry. I hope oc doesn't pass.

You are the biggest fucking douche.

[Denny]

Yale, Imma need me a hip cannon!

[YALE]

Read motherfuckers!

Sorry Craig.

[HarrisonTX]

Why are the reasons given not valid? You can't just claim a justification for something as invalid without proper reasoning. Most thefts and robberies are crimes of opportunity. If you raise the opportunity cost too high for those people, which seeing another person armed could do, you will avert an incident before it even gets off the ground. Nobody is telling you that you HAVE to OC, they're merely giving you the option. If you don't want to, where do you get off telling other people that they can't?

Damn Sean, right the fuck on.
I just like having more options.

[whitetrash]

Any drawing from conceal involves another motion or two that does slow you down or worse, something gets in the way no matter how much you practice. FWIW, OC draw is faster than open shirt drawn (ex. jacket, vest, etc) which is faster than over garment draw (ex. T-shirt, Hoodie, sweat shirt).

And I've never seen anybody "freak out" while in Neveda with OC people there.


The penalties went away for that a couple of years ago.




Article said it'd go into affect January 2016 to give time to the DPS to "prepare".

What do they need to prepare for? Seeing guns? That makes no sense to me. Maybe just a way to push it back a little farther