2013 gt500

[Steve]

Are you serious? Do you know the sales figures on Mustang/Camaro? Clearly you don't. Camaro has been outselling Mustang since the new Camaro came out. I read a stat on a Chevrolet ad recently that one out of every 3 sporty/sports cars sold is a Camaro or Corvette.

Your logic (or lack thereof) seems to imply since the Corvette outsells pretty much every sports car except the 350/370Z (Mustang/Camaro are muscle/sporty cars) then Porsche should stop producing the 911, BMW should stop making the M3, Audi shouldn't make the R8, Ferrari shouldn't make anything, etc.

You're assuming alot of things to put words into what I said to suit your arguement. If you're looking to get into a mudslinging contest, I'm not interested. If you want to have a rational discussion, I'm good with that.

After some quick looking, I was incorrect in my information. Camaro is slightly outselling Mustang by a 3% margin. It seems the new design being announced slowed Mustang sales for so many waiting for the 2013 redesign.

[Broncojohnny]

Those ZR1 owners are such idiots when they could have saved $100k getting a 5.0 with some mods that could outperform it. I wonder where those idiots got the money to buy a ZR1 in the first place. I'll go over to corvetteforum and try to find out and report back.

Probably got it all from their gubment checks

[quikag]

I hate to beat a dead horse, but you have to forgive Steve, he probably saw something on tv, misinterpreted it, and wanted to seem smart on the internet, but he failed miserably.......again.

-MattB (drunken cockjockey)

I try to stay out of the personal stuff on dfwm, primarily because I haven't met anyone on this board (except for a few Vette guys). That said, Steve, for the love of all things good and pure, please don't post until you have at least google searched your comments. Making asinine comments that have no factual basis in reality doesn't help your case around here.

[slow99]

The 5.0 is base model v-8 for ford. Why do you have to compare it to top of the line vette 20 years ago? How would the base model vette from 20 years ago hang with the 5.0? It couldn't.

He was replying to the ford gt comment, Einstein.

[quikag]

The 5.0 is base model v-8 for ford. Why do you have to compare it to top of the line vette 20 years ago? How would the base model vette from 20 years ago hang with the 5.0? It couldn't.

The new 5.0 could outrun a Ferrari Testarossa from 20 years ago. What's your point?

[MattB]

Are you serious? Do you know the sales figures on Mustang/Camaro? Clearly you don't. Camaro has been outselling Mustang since the new Camaro came out. I read a stat on a Chevrolet ad recently that one out of every 3 sporty/sports cars sold is a Camaro or Corvette.

Your logic (or lack thereof) seems to imply since the Corvette outsells pretty much every sports car except the 350/370Z (Mustang/Camaro are muscle/sporty cars) then Porsche should stop producing the 911, BMW should stop making the M3, Audi shouldn't make the R8, Ferrari shouldn't make anything, etc.

I hate to beat a dead horse, but you have to forgive Steve, he probably saw something on tv, misinterpreted it, and wanted to seem smart on the internet, but he failed miserably.......again.

-MattB (drunken cockjockey)

[quikag]

That is a cool comparison since I pay 100k least then a ZR1. And guess what I could do with the money left over. Spend another 10k on suspension and then kill the zr1 at the road course then spend the 90k on hookers and blow.

100k least? Nice grammar. Since you can get a new ZR1 for $100k, then your 5.0 with the KB blower was free then?

I'm sure a free 5.0 with KB blower and $10k worth of suspension will hold up great to a sustained road course session against a bone stock ZR1.

Those ZR1 owners are such idiots when they could have saved $100k getting a 5.0 with some mods that could outperform it. I wonder where those idiots got the money to buy a ZR1 in the first place. I'll go over to corvetteforum and try to find out and report back.

[Badass2000GT]

The 20+ year old C4 ZR-1 still hangs pretty good with the new 5.0. What's your point?

The 5.0 is base model v-8 for ford. Why do you have to compare it to top of the line vette 20 years ago? How would the base model vette from 20 years ago hang with the 5.0? It couldn't.

[Badass2000GT]

Beat it at what? Drag racing? Sure, a KB 5.0 may pull out a win against a bone stock ZR1. That's a cool comparison.

That is a cool comparison since I pay 100k least then a ZR1. And guess what I could do with the money left over. Spend another 10k on suspension and then kill the zr1 at the road course then spend the 90k on hookers and blow.

[quikag]

The 7+ year old Ford GT still hangs with them pretty good...

The 20+ year old C4 ZR-1 still hangs pretty good with the new 5.0. What's your point?

[quikag]

Plus isn't the 5.0 a KB away to hang with the zr1 or beat it?

Beat it at what? Drag racing? Sure, a KB 5.0 may pull out a win against a bone stock ZR1. That's a cool comparison.

[quikag]

GM has the corner of the market dominated for quite some time now. It would be foolish to develop a whole new car to try and compete for such a small market. Why would they throw away all that money when they are completely dominating in the truck and Mustang markets? They sell 5 Mustangs to every one Camaro. Seems pretty smart to me.

Are you serious? Do you know the sales figures on Mustang/Camaro? Clearly you don't. Camaro has been outselling Mustang since the new Camaro came out. I read a stat on a Chevrolet ad recently that one out of every 3 sporty/sports cars sold is a Camaro or Corvette.

Your logic (or lack thereof) seems to imply since the Corvette outsells pretty much every sports car except the 350/370Z (Mustang/Camaro are muscle/sporty cars) then Porsche should stop producing the 911, BMW should stop making the M3, Audi shouldn't make the R8, Ferrari shouldn't make anything, etc.

[Badass2000GT]

GM has the corner of the market dominated for quite some time now. It would be foolish to develop a whole new car to try and compete for such a small market. Why would they throw away all that money when they are completely dominating in the truck and Mustang markets? They sell 5 Mustangs to every one Camaro. Seems pretty smart to me.

Plus isn't the 5.0 a KB away to hang with the zr1 or beat it?

[Steve]

Sure, GM is in the business of keeping the Bowling Green plant going cranking out Corvettes because it's a big money loser and they are spending hundreds of millions developing the C7 because it'll be a money loser too.

GM has the corner of the market dominated for quite some time now. It would be foolish to develop a whole new car to try and compete for such a small market. Why would they throw away all that money when they are completely dominating in the truck and Mustang markets? They sell 5 Mustangs to every one Camaro. Seems pretty smart to me.

[White_lightning]

The 7+ year old Ford GT still hangs with them pretty good...

well the only part thats FORD about the GT is the motor.. everything else is lotus or other euro car parts

also.. i would HOPE a 170k Super car would " hang" with cars that are 70-130k cheaper