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  • cobrajet69
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    Originally posted by BLAKE View Post

    4 seconds difference on one track isn't enough to make me want to buy that camaro over a boss, but really it's win/win. I want to live in a world where mustangs and camaros are trying their damnedest to whip up on each other and both perform well.


    Agreed!



    David

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  • quikag
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    Originally posted by aggie97 View Post
    I want to see the same thing....but laps 10-18. I could care less if it can rip off a single fast lap but the mass behind the Camaro will BOIL a tire long before the Mustang will. The Camaro will have to slow at lap 3 while the mustang keeps ripping off fast laps with it's 600# less weight.
    BS. I didn't know the Boss only weighed 3200lbs. The Z28 is 3800 and it will be fine with a bunch of track day lapping. You see tires boiling on the GT-R? Didn't think so. Now, I do agree consumable cost will be higher than lighter cars but it'll be a fun track day special with full factory warranty backing including track days.

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  • aggie97
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    Real road race cars all have independent suspension.
    I have two in the garage that say you are wrong!

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  • aggie97
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    Originally posted by MattB View Post
    I'd like to see both cars with World Challenge spec Pirelli 305 slicks all the way around + proper alignment. I think they would be a lot closer, plus it would be more in line with what a road course enthusiast would do.
    I want to see the same thing....but laps 10-18. I could care less if it can rip off a single fast lap but the mass behind the Camaro will BOIL a tire long before the Mustang will. The Camaro will have to slow at lap 3 while the mustang keeps ripping off fast laps with it's 600# less weight.

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  • Rreemo
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    Originally posted by 32vfromhell View Post
    Which Mustang costs 65k, btw? Is the GT500 that high now? Last i priced one out, it was in the mid 50s.
    Buddy of mine bought a 14' Shelby a couple months ago slightly under sticker....he paid $59K and some change, I think he said it stickered around $62K.

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  • 32vfromhell
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    Originally posted by MattB View Post
    IRS is the main factor in the Camaro being better. That being said, the 2014.5/2015 Mustang will have IRS.
    We'll see what ford does with the new mustang. If you are a fan of either car, this one-upmanship is a good thing for all breeds. Well, i guess you can count out the challenger, as its still fat, heavy, and slow.

    Just like trucks have been getting better and better between ford, chevy, dodge, nissan, and toyota because of the constant need to best the other guy, and marketing manipulation of tow numbers will only get you so far.


    Which Mustang costs 65k, btw? Is the GT500 that high now? Last i priced one out, it was in the mid 50s.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by SOLOW55 View Post
    Do you think IRS has that much over solid axle ? Ride quality would be improved , but a lot of track cars still run solid .
    Real road race cars all have independent suspension.

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  • SOLOW55
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    Originally posted by MattB View Post
    IRS is the main factor in the Camaro being better. That being said, the 2014.5/2015 Mustang will have IRS.
    Do you think IRS has that much over solid axle ? Ride quality would be improved , but a lot of track cars still run solid .

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  • Sgt Beavis
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    Originally posted by Black.s197 View Post
    Has anyone noticed the HONDA PRELUDE rear end on the camaro...? Hahaha camaros are a joke!
    You aren't the only one that has noticed.

    IMO they did a great job updating the front and interior, but the rear just ruins the whole car for me.

    Can't wait for the 2015 Mustang.

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  • naynay
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    Originally posted by 32vfromhell View Post
    i like how the z/28 has 305mm tires on every corner.

    Not so sure i would pay 65k for a camaro though.
    What's a gt500 cost( and how many were made?)

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by John -- '02 HAWK View Post
    or a mustang

    with that much money I would start looking at Vettes or other 2 seaters
    I agree. That will buy you a really, really nice new Corvette.

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  • John -- '02 HAWK
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    Originally posted by 32vfromhell View Post
    Not so sure i would pay 65k for a camaro though.
    or a mustang

    with that much money I would start looking at Vettes or other 2 seaters

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  • MattB
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    Originally posted by BLAKE View Post
    Everything I've heard says that the camaro is a better chassis for taking corners. This doesn't seem that surprising to me.

    4 seconds difference on one track isn't enough to make me want to buy that camaro over a boss, but really it's win/win. I want to live in a world where mustangs and camaros are trying their damnedest to whip up on each other and both perform well.
    IRS is the main factor in the Camaro being better. That being said, the 2014.5/2015 Mustang will have IRS.

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  • Chas_svo
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    Originally posted by MrSS View Post
    I see a lot of times for both GTR and 911 behind the z/28. In the link you provided. You have to mention the 7:24 time is a gt2 rs @$250k that Porsche would never confirm with video or say if it was 100% factory.
    It's the ones in front that are important. Lots of people could drive them slower...

    Originally posted by HarrisonTX View Post
    Oh because there's so many z/28 rolling around?

    What a bogus statement.
    Lots of Camaro SS's that are 1-1.5 seconds slower thru the qtr than GM and the first testers. Looks to be the same for ZL1s, and no reason not to expect the same one-offs for the Z28's. Sales gimmicks for suckers.

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  • 91CoupeMike
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    4 seconds over 12 miles.

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