Dashcam vid released in Grisham arrest

[dcs13]

While being a prick may not be illegal, I think it hurts their cause. If they did the videos and would come off as rational people, it would do nothing but help the public opinion. The officer was clearly in the wrong. I don't get why these people get so upset and start screaming and cursing (second video posted up) there is a better way for them to get their point across then screaming and having a mob like mentality. I want open carry, but honestly I don't think it will happen if these nut jobs keep up with their antics.

Agree 100%... These yahoo's that act like fools will hurt the cause more than help..
Remember too , this State is going liberal . Hopefully not too quick, but we lost Dallas County ... Libs hate guns if you don't recall

[Machx2]

It's not illegal to be a prick.

While being a prick may not be illegal, I think it hurts their cause. If they did the videos and would come off as rational people, it would do nothing but help the public opinion. The officer was clearly in the wrong. I don't get why these people get so upset and start screaming and cursing (second video posted up) there is a better way for them to get their point across then screaming and having a mob like mentality. I want open carry, but honestly I don't think it will happen if these nut jobs keep up with their antics.

[2165 Turbo Rail]

Why do these guys that always catch these things on film always start off overly excited. I understand he wasn't doing anything wrong but he wasn't helping by yelling at the cops

Some people open carry like that expecting to get jacked with and fly off the handle first thing

They were both pricks. And reading some background on the guy I wouldn't want him walking around with an ar either. He is a drama queen.

It's not illegal to be a prick.

[Denny]

They were both pricks. And reading some background on the guy I wouldn't want him walking around with an ar either. He is a drama queen.

So is talisman, but I'll let him slide if he's cool.

[Super Coupe]

And here we have the right answer. It's much easier to be a condescending prick though. Speaking of condescending pricks, I'll probably be giving you a shout tomorrow about a few things. Or fuck it, if you're free, lets get lunch in Lincoln Square.

They were both pricks. And reading some background on the guy I wouldn't want him walking around with an ar either. He is a drama queen.

[Denny]

A normal law obeying citizen would respond with, me and my son are hiking and there are wild animals around that could oppose a threat to us.

They wouldn't answer with cause I can.

I wouldn't ask why he's carrying. Read again.

[Denny]

And here we have the right answer. It's much easier to be a condescending prick though. Speaking of condescending pricks, I'll probably be giving you a shout tomorrow about a few things. Or fuck it, if you're free, lets get lunch in Lincoln Square.

Right on!

[Forever_frost]

My girlfriends brother is a police officer. I'm going to show him this video and ask what he would have done in this situation. I know for a fact he is not against the rights for law obeying citizens to arm themselves. I also know he has 2 kids and a wife that he would like to come home to every night. So I bet he probably sees nothing wrong with what happened.

See, I'm sure I'd like to go home at night so when an armed man tries to disarm me when I am not breaking any law, I am going to assume he means me harm.

[Forever_frost]

Good god I'm not saying his rights weren't violated and I'm not saying that civil rights isn't something to take serious. Ill go walk down a road with a shotgun and if a police officer wants to disarm me first to ask what I was up to I wouldn't care. It's not like he's taking it for good. I especially wouldn't care if I had another pistol on me.

If you're not breaking a law, why would you consent to a conversation that can and will be used against you by people that shoot unarmed men sitting in their living room and avoid prosecution, or kick in the door to the wrong address and kill the homeowner and get paid time off?

No he didn't. I would use this in police training. This could have been handled a lot better, even with a citizen on a 2nd Ammendment high.

Serve and Protect means something totally different to me than it does to most of what I see these days. Glad I'm out of that game.

As an officer, if I got a call to go check out a JY walking around with an AR, it would be my obligation to look into it. Why? Because someone felt uncomfortable and threatened that he had it. Fine. We're any laws violated so far? No. I would approach the guy and ask what is going on. If the rifle was slung over his shoulder, I wouldn't have a need to ask him for it while we talked (shit, if he could get a round off before me at that point, I deserve to be shot). Anyway, I would talk to him just like any other person. I wouldn't say things like, "Why do you have that assaulting-type rifle with you?" Or "what's the problem, here?" I would simply make a brief, friendly chat and make observations of his demeanor, maybe assess his arsenal and just make sure that peace is maintained since that SHOULD be the overall objective in any situation. Then I would make a follow-up call to the original complainant and report that he was no threat to anyone during my interaction with him.

But what the hell do I know, I'm no cop.

And here we have the right answer. It's much easier to be a condescending prick though. Speaking of condescending pricks, I'll probably be giving you a shout tomorrow about a few things. Or fuck it, if you're free, lets get lunch in Lincoln Square.

[Super Coupe]

No he didn't. I would use this in police training. This could have been handled a lot better, even with a citizen on a 2nd Ammendment high.

Serve and Protect means something totally different to me than it does to most of what I see these days. Glad I'm out of that game.

As an officer, if I got a call to go check out a JY walking around with an AR, it would be my obligation to look into it. Why? Because someone felt uncomfortable and threatened that he had it. Fine. We're any laws violated so far? No. I would approach the guy and ask what is going on. If the rifle was slung over his shoulder, I wouldn't have a need to ask him for it while we talked (shit, if he could get a round off before me at that point, I deserve to be shot). Anyway, I would talk to him just like any other person. I wouldn't say things like, "Why do you have that assaulting-type rifle with you?" Or "what's the problem, here?" I would simply make a brief, friendly chat and make observations of his demeanor, maybe assess his arsenal and just make sure that peace is maintained since that SHOULD be the overall objective in any situation. Then I would make a follow-up call to the original complainant and report that he was no threat to anyone during my interaction with him.

But what the hell do I know, I'm no cop.

A normal law obeying citizen would respond with, me and my son are hiking and there are wild animals around that could oppose a threat to us.

They wouldn't answer with cause I can.

[Denny]

I don't know about anybody else but I have never seen a random guy walking down the side of a highway with an AR hanging on his chest. It would make me a little skeptical of what he was doing. I get that its not against the law. That cop didnt give a crap about taking the right to carry a gun like that. He just wanted to question the guy without the risk of anybody getting hurt.

No he didn't. I would use this in police training. This could have been handled a lot better, even with a citizen on a 2nd Ammendment high.

Serve and Protect means something totally different to me than it does to most of what I see these days. Glad I'm out of that game.

As an officer, if I got a call to go check out a JY walking around with an AR, it would be my obligation to look into it. Why? Because someone felt uncomfortable and threatened that he had it. Fine. We're any laws violated so far? No. I would approach the guy and ask what is going on. If the rifle was slung over his shoulder, I wouldn't have a need to ask him for it while we talked (shit, if he could get a round off before me at that point, I deserve to be shot). Anyway, I would talk to him just like any other person. I wouldn't say things like, "Why do you have that assaulting-type rifle with you?" Or "what's the problem, here?" I would simply make a brief, friendly chat and make observations of his demeanor, maybe assess his arsenal and just make sure that peace is maintained since that SHOULD be the overall objective in any situation. Then I would make a follow-up call to the original complainant and report that he was no threat to anyone during my interaction with him.

But what the hell do I know, I'm no cop.

[Super Coupe]

My girlfriends brother is a police officer. I'm going to show him this video and ask what he would have done in this situation. I know for a fact he is not against the rights for law obeying citizens to arm themselves. I also know he has 2 kids and a wife that he would like to come home to every night. So I bet he probably sees nothing wrong with what happened.

Hood people are going to start carrying their 9mm on a necklace now. Would that be a cause for concern, or just let them be?

Open carrying a handgun is illegal.