Buying my first handgun soon and...

[War Machine]

I understand your reasoning, and I reiterate the fact there are multiple people on this very board - this small sample of shooters - that have had glocks blow up in their hand. I own a glock, I've shot many of them. I know them well enough not to suck their plastic dongs. Police purchase glocks because they are simple (DAO), cheap (ever seen a bulk glock order?), and in some departments they provide maintenance at much cheaper rates. Glocks work, that I do not deny. However, they also have had a checkered history of blowing up. If you think they are infallible I'll give you 500 cast bullets and a Glock 22 and you can go to town. It will blow up in your hands. Great guns, very reliable. Perfect guns? No.

so youre saying any random glock will blow up in use with 500 rounds of good ammo???

Again, the only people having guns blow up are people using shit ammo.

[Moose242]

If so many have failed, then why does over 65% of Law enforcement still issue them to this day? Guess they want their hands blowing off the police officers?

Because they are cheap, they market the shit out of them, and they suck the guy at the department in charge of requisitioning's dick.

They are also easy to put into the lyrics of a rap song, so black people like them.

Only reason you hear about about this happening to glocks and not other pistols is glock dominates the handgun market.

Lol, seriously dude? You sure are treading the water pretty damn hard.

As for the gen4's, it wasn't every single gun that was recalled, it was only a couple models having problems. That problem was only due to weak load ammunition

Nope, it was every single gen 4 that used the new recoil spring setup.

[ceyko]

I still can't believe these arguments happen.

[CJ]

I can't believe I'm a witness to this momentous occasion! Buzzo has actually typed more than one sentence!

I have that effect on people.

[Geor!]

I can't believe I'm a witness to this momentous occasion! Buzzo has actually typed more than one sentence!

[CJ]

If so many have failed, then why does over 65% of Law enforcement still issue them to this day? Guess they want their hands blowing off the police officers?

Only reason you hear about about this happening to glocks and not other pistols is glock dominates the handgun market. Sure youre going to hear about their problems before others.

As for the gen4's, it was every single gun that was recalled, it was only a couple models having problems. It was only having problems with weak loads

I understand your reasoning, and I reiterate the fact there are multiple people on this very board - this small sample of shooters - that have had glocks blow up in their hand. I own a glock, I've shot many of them. I know them well enough not to suck their plastic dongs. Police purchase glocks because they are simple (DAO), cheap (ever seen a bulk glock order?), and in some departments they provide maintenance at much cheaper rates. Glocks work, that I do not deny. However, they also have had a checkered history of blowing up. If you think they are infallible I'll give you 500 cast bullets and a Glock 22 and you can go to town. It will blow up in your hands. Great guns, very reliable. Perfect guns? No.

[War Machine]

You have no idea what that was, there's no way to be sure. Ask Matt if he was firing reloads when that glock 22 blew up in his hands. For one in a million it's pretty abnormal to have multiple people have glock failures, isn't it? And please calm the butthurt.

If so many have failed, then why does over 65% of Law enforcement still issue them to this day? Guess they want their hands blowing off the police officers?

Only reason you hear about about this happening to glocks and not other pistols is glock dominates the handgun market. Sure youre going to hear about their problems before others.

As for the gen4's, it wasn't every single gun that was recalled, it was only a couple models having problems. That problem was only due to weak load ammunition

[CJ]

I assume it does, I will check it when I get home though.


Hell, we can shoot all the super in the world out of the Mark 23

You buy the brass I'll load you some .45 Super and we can chrono it. Starline sells .45 super brass.

As for the USP, I *believe* mine had only a partially supported chamber, I can't recall.

[Moose242]

Well yes it's dimensionally the same, my witness shoots .45 super. I just don't remember if a USP has a full supported chamber like the MK23.

I assume it does, I will check it when I get home though.


Hell, we can shoot all the super in the world out of the Mark 23

[CJ]

.45 super is dimensionally identical to .45acp, so yes.


Tell you what, if you load some .45 super we can shoot it in my USP to test it out.

Well yes it's dimensionally the same, my witness shoots .45 super. I just don't remember if a USP has a full supported chamber like the MK23.

[Moose242]

While we're on the topic, I was going to ask you. Does the USP have a fully supported chamber for .45 Super? I know the MK23 does.

.45 super is dimensionally identical to .45acp, so yes.


Tell you what, if you load some .45 super we can shoot it in my USP to test it out.

[CJ]

Not an overcharged round. Glocks in .40 used a partially unsupported chamber and this made them prone to catastrophic failure. Thus the proverbial "glock-nade".








I'll stick with HK when I want plastic guns.

While we're on the topic, I was going to ask you. Does the USP Tactical have a fully supported chamber for .45 Super? I know the MK23 does.

[Moose242]

overcharged round, can't blame the gun maker for that. Besides, considering millions on millions of Glocks out there, and cases of this actually happening, you have better chances of getting struck by lightening and winning the lottery in the same day.

The gen4 Glocks have improved their barrel design so overcharged round failure is not a problem.

What else you got? going to post a video of the slide being too slippery?

Not an overcharged round. Glocks in .40 used a partially unsupported chamber and this made them prone to catastrophic failure. Thus the proverbial "glock-nade".








I'll stick with HK when I want plastic guns.

Edit: oh yeah, I forgot to mention how they fucked up every one of their generation 4 guns and had to recall them all. Every single gun.

[CJ]

overcharged round, can't blame the gun maker for that. Besides, considering millions on millions of Glocks out there, and cases of this actually happening, you have better chances of getting struck by lightening and winning the lottery in the same day.

The gen4 Glocks have improved their barrel design so overcharged round failure is not a problem.

What else you got? going to post a video of the slide being too slippery?

You have no idea what that was, there's no way to be sure. Ask Matt if he was firing reloads when that glock 22 blew up in his hands. For one in a million it's pretty abnormal to have multiple people have glock failures, isn't it? And please calm the butthurt.

[War Machine]

overcharged round, can't blame the gun maker for that. Besides, considering millions on millions of Glocks out there, and cases of this actually happening, you have better chances of getting struck by lightening and winning the lottery in the same day.

The gen4 Glocks have improved their barrel design so overcharged round failure is not a problem.

What else you got? going to post a video of the slide being too slippery?