Beretta 1301 Tactical?

[svauto-erotic855]

I figured you took 22 LR to the nuts every morning as a warmup...... and you won't take one nut shot recoil challenge?

I do shoot myself every morning with a .22 so I can build up an immunity to larger bullets.

[AnthonyS]

I figured you took 22 LR to the nuts every morning as a warmup...... and you won't take one nut shot recoil challenge?

[svauto-erotic855]

So you're not actually going to take the 1301 00 buckshot recoil to the balls challenge? That's a huge fuckng disappointment. That shit would put you in the johnny Knoxville hall of shame.

I won't let you shoot me with a BB gun much less a shotgun. I will gladly demonstrate doing a mag dump with the butt of the shotgun pressed firmly against my sternum.

[AnthonyS]

Y'all must realize that I am just trolling at this point.

So you're not actually going to take the 1301 00 buckshot recoil to the balls challenge? That's a huge fuckng disappointment. That shit would put you in the johnny Knoxville hall of shame.

[BradM]

But what's the terminal velocity of an apple, and is it African, or European?

I laughed.

[svauto-erotic855]

Y'all must realize that I am just trolling at this point.

[Craizie]

You a botanist by chance?

[Nash B.]

I'm not a biologist, dude

[Craizie]

But what's the terminal velocity of an apple, and is it African, or European?

[Nash B.]

Now that I am not tired I redid my apples equation. When I did it in the past I used 10 meters for one full second of accelerating and came up with the numbers I had initially quoted. It looks like I left a zero off and did not screw up the weight.

That's still only about 20 foot-pounds of energy. What equation are you using exactly?

Those apples would have to be falling at about 175 feet/second to get in the range of 9mm +P+. You would have to drop it from about 475 feet (145 meters)

[svauto-erotic855]

Stop moving the goalposts. You said "A base ball thrown into your gut has more energy than most hand gun loads" and that's simply not true. Even going by the 50 meter bullshit, a modern 124 grain 9mm leaving the barrel at 1120 feet/second will still be going over 1000 feet/second at 50 yards and 950 feet/second at 100 yards. Its energy won't drop below 200 foot-pounds until at least 150 yards.

Now that I am not tired I redid my apples equation. When I did it in the past I used 10 meters for one full second of accelerating and came up with the numbers I had initially quoted. It looks like I left a zero off and did not screw up the weight.

[juiceweezl]

Nash, give up. You're wrong and he's right. It's the 11th commandment, even though we all know the truth. Remember, he shot someone once...

[Nash B.]

The apples comparison I completely screwed up. The base ball comparison was accurate; you saying that it is not doesn't work because you did not ask how I came up with that number. It would be like me asking you how high is "Up" without providing a frame of reference and saying that what ever answer you gave is incorrect.

Stop moving the goalposts. You said "A base ball thrown into your gut has more energy than most hand gun loads" and that's simply not true. Even going by the 50 meter bullshit, a modern 124 grain 9mm leaving the barrel at 1120 feet/second will still be going over 1000 feet/second at 50 yards and 950 feet/second at 100 yards. Its energy won't drop below 200 foot-pounds until at least 150 yards.

[svauto-erotic855]

OK? Those are just fun facts that have nothing to do with both of your original claims not only being false, but being nowhere near close to true.

The apples comparison I completely screwed up. The base ball comparison was accurate; you saying that it is not doesn't work because you did not ask how I came up with that number. It would be like me asking you how high is "Up" without providing a frame of reference and saying that what ever answer you gave is incorrect.

[Nash B.]

Muzzle vs 50 meters. The original 9mm design spec did not have a muzzle energy requirement; only a 50 meter requirement.

The reason I said +p+ is because the old school 9mm loads were already that. As the ability to measure pressure got better they have backed off the old loads significantly. One ubiquitous factory 9mm load from the mid teens to the late 40s tested normal using the CPU method. When using a strain gauge once they became available they found it was about 11,000lbs over pressure. The same thing happened with 125gr .357mag loads using blue dot.

OK? Those are just fun facts that have nothing to do with both of your original claims not only being false, but being nowhere near close to true.