How would you handle this

[Treasure Chest]

I am fucking amazed at some people I considered to have a good head on their shoulders. I hope a lot of you don't have kids. And i know some of you do. My kid will be footing the tax bill for your irresponsible children. Lovely. Let me say a sarcastic thank you on his behalf.


Not old enough to have a dog? Be responsible for a pet? At fucking 9? Much less 11? He doesn't need to know it's his fault? Kim, are you high? I was castrating bulls at 7. Killing cattle, chickens, other livestock, etc. Nine is plenty old. Much less 11.


If this was me in this situation, I'd whip his ass. He'd be digging the hole, he'd be burying the dog in the hole with no gloves. And hed know damn well the dog dying was HIS fault. Fuck playing pass the buck. Yes, you both share some responsibility as the child's parents. But if you let him think or one second, that it wasnt his fault, its a wasted opportunity to teach responsiility. And all youllget from that point on is the blame game. That teacher just didnt like me, i forgot, its Jimmy's fault, etc. Shut up, suck it up, an sack up. The kid is about to hit his teenage years. You best teach him while you can. His mother and I would cease our relationship, because she sounds like a lazy irresponsible bitch. I never would have been in this situation to begin with.

I grew up on a farm, so I get where you're coming from. By 11, I knew the dangers of extreme temps, our working dogs stayed outside, but they had the run of 50+ acres with access to multiple fresh watering options, in addition to ponds and creeks to cool off in, barns to nap in, and sheds to dig under. The barns had autofilled troughs, mineral licks, and we kept a close eye on everything throughout the day. The difference is that we were raised with very specific instruction on the animals in our care. It doesn't sound like this kid has. Had he maliciously killed the animal, locked it in a shed, or neglected it for days, I'd agree with you entirely. Given the situation and that he was allegedly given instructions from his mom, after a call with SEB, I respectfully disagree.
With the information provided, I have a hard time believing she gave him clear instruction as soon as the phone call ended. If she said anything, it was probably as an afterthought, and by that time, it was already too late.

[GrayStangGT]

What kind of dirt am I suppose to have on her? LOL!!! I don't know her. I probably shouldn't have even said that.

I'm doing good for myself. I turn 23 in a month and I've got a decent house I love along with two great dogs that I care for daily and I've got 4 vehicles along with a good job providing me with everything. I'm doing well off for having a criminal record and no education. Keep talking shit though if it makes you happy.

I guess some people have a different definition of doing good for themselves. I only had 3 cars at 23, but all of them ran as they were intended to, I had graduated college and was saving up to buy a house. In contrast your life sounds like a complete clusterfuck from what you have posted on here lol.

[Grape]

this country is fucked..........next thing you know these little fags will have to wear a helmet when they ride a bike, oh wait.

[jdgregory84]

Eliminate all of those involved.

[Treasure Chest]

This is a little dog & has always been a outside dog & he stays outside 24/7 unless its Freezing cold.

He is a Boston Mixed with something. He was a stray & was given to Peyton

I have yet to read through entirely, but I'm throwing in my two cents. Brachycephalic dogs should NEVER be left out in heat, water or no water. By default, they are more susceptible to heatstroke.
He very well could have provided water to the Jasper, which he drank. If Peyton's mom said, 'Make sure Jasper has water,' it's not inconceivable that Peyton looked at the bowl, saw an inch of water in the bottom, and assumed, with an 11 year old's comprehension, that Jasper had water.

The first opportunity for parenting was to explain to Peyton that excessive heat can be deadly, very quickly, and in addition to making sure his water bowl stayed filled, he needed to check on him often and tell his mom if Jasper started acting weird.
The common sense route was to bring the dog in, regardless of being an outdoor dog or not, but that's a moot point, now.

Since the dog is now dead, rather rubbing the kid's nose in the dog's corpse, take the time to explain the dangers of excessive heat, WITHOUT PLACING BLAME ON THE KID. Then, chastise his mother for being irresponsible in pet ownership, and if she ever mentions getting a replacement dog, intervene.

Going back to your comment about the former Boston's death being Peyton's fault, can you really fault a then 6 year old for not being in control of a dog? A 6 year old is rarely a dominant master. That dog died from lack of training or by consequences of his own free will. you cannot blame the kid for that, nor can you continue to hold it against him.

[bcoop]

I am fucking amazed at some people I considered to have a good head on their shoulders. I hope a lot of you don't have kids. And i know some of you do. My kid will be footing the tax bill for your irresponsible children. Lovely. Let me say a sarcastic thank you on his behalf.


Not old enough to have a dog? Be responsible for a pet? At fucking 9? Much less 11? He doesn't need to know it's his fault? Kim, are you high? I was castrating bulls at 7. Killing cattle, chickens, other livestock, etc. Nine is plenty old. Much less 11.


If this was me in this situation, I'd whip his ass. He'd be digging the hole, he'd be burying the dog in the hole with no gloves. And hed know damn well the dog dying was HIS fault. Fuck playing pass the buck. Yes, you both share some responsibility as the child's parents. But if you let him think or one second, that it wasnt his fault, its a wasted opportunity to teach responsiility. And all youllget from that point on is the blame game. That teacher just didnt like me, i forgot, its Jimmy's fault, etc. Shut up, suck it up, an sack up. The kid is about to hit his teenage years. You best teach him while you can. His mother and I would cease our relationship, because she sounds like a lazy irresponsible bitch. I never would have been in this situation to begin with.

[Cooter]

I think I would have him help bury the dog. I wouldn't yell at him or berate him, just you and him taking care of what needs to be done. It sounds like he knows he made a mistake and he has suffered the consequences. The burying won't be fun, its just the work that needs to be done to take care of his dog for the last time. As long as you aren't whipping him while you are doing it I don't think it would be cruel at all.

SEB you sound like a stand up guy. It sucks that the boy has to go through this but he will be a better man for it. He's lucky to have somebody stepping up and trying to teach him a lesson the right way. Sounds like he doesn't get many chances to be taught how to be a man, this is a good one.

right on

[slow06]

I think I would have him help bury the dog. I wouldn't yell at him or berate him, just you and him taking care of what needs to be done. It sounds like he knows he made a mistake and he has suffered the consequences. The burying won't be fun, its just the work that needs to be done to take care of his dog for the last time. As long as you aren't whipping him while you are doing it I don't think it would be cruel at all.

SEB you sound like a stand up guy. It sucks that the boy has to go through this but he will be a better man for it. He's lucky to have somebody stepping up and trying to teach him a lesson the right way. Sounds like he doesn't get many chances to be taught how to be a man, this is a good one.

[SEB]

SEB - You probably would benefit greatly from a San Angelo bar, they are long steel spikes to break up ground. Essential in dry texas soil/clay. You can get them at Lowes or home depot for like $24 bucks.

http://www.google.com/products?q=72%...lo+bar&show=dd

This is exactly what I need. I actually have a long crow bar in the back of my lawn truck right now. Going to give it a shot. The shovel isnt doing shit.

[SEB]

my daughter is 10 and her responsibility is taking care of the dog (feeding, picking up after etc.) buti have to keep reminder her every day to do it.
that is why i went and bought a kiddie pool for the summer. the dog never runs out of water, can cool off if to hot etc etc.
if the kid loved the dog, i think he will receive his own punishment by burying the dog. if he has the o well attitude, then i would jump his ass.
at 9 years old it's hard to put responsibility on kid for anything other than their actions. JMO

I think a kiddie pool would have been the best answer to this whole problem. My dog lives with my neighbors two German Sheppards & they all lay in the kiddie pool together when its hot & then go dig holes under the porch & lay in them to stay cool.

[CJ]

SEB - You probably would benefit greatly from a San Angelo bar, they are long steel spikes to break up ground. Essential in dry texas soil/clay. You can get them at Lowes or home depot for like $24 bucks.

http://www.google.com/products?q=72%22+san+angelo+bar&show=dd

[BradM]

The mother is the one who failed in this situation. The kid is partially responsible but the mother let the dog die.

[Broncojohnny]

You didn't ever say he was stiff with his eyes open, take him and mount him to a piece of plywood and he'll be good as new.

[CJ]

I understand he's 11 years old, I and everyone else on this board was 11 years old. If my father told me to give water to the dog, it was my ass. EVEN if no one told me to give water to the dog - it was my ass. I completely disagree with everyone trying to absolve the young kid of all responsibility. Like Elvis said - excellent opportunity to learn.

[SEB]

Well I am really proud of the kid. His Pop & his Nana called to console him & he took full responsibility for Jasper & you could see he wanted to cry over the phone while talking to them. But he just let his eyes fill up with tears & kept his composure.

Well wish me luck digging. I hope the soil is soft under the first foot. Cause its rock hard out in Kaufman & this county is a Sandy soil area


EDIT! thanks for the tag to whoever put it at the bottom super dad. From the first 30 posts of this thread I thought I would have got hung by some of the members on this board with their reading skills & lack of paying attn