Ever been asked for your Social Security number during a traffic stop?

[mstng86]

The odds of coming across a bad cop is much lower than coming across a good cop. I'm very proud of what I do. I understand I'll never change your minds on this topic, I'm just telling you guys how *I* operate. I can honestly tell you though, our admin has an iron fisted grip on it's patrol officers, and allows NO margin of error. The PD would much rather ax an officer than pay out a suit.

Edit: Another reason I read this board so much is because I learn what you guys do/dont want. It helps me be a better officer.

or you're a spy

[Osiris]

You say that like it matters. The most important thing to me is what the worst guy on your force is going to do.

The odds of coming across a bad cop is much lower than coming across a good cop. I'm very proud of what I do. I understand I'll never change your minds on this topic, I'm just telling you guys how *I* operate. I can honestly tell you though, our admin has an iron fisted grip on it's patrol officers, and allows NO margin of error. The PD would much rather ax an officer than pay out a suit.

Edit: Another reason I read this board so much is because I learn what you guys do/dont want. It helps me be a better officer.

[Broncojohnny]

You mean the next officer? I can only speak for myself. Which is why I said what I did. It's a shame a few bad officers have made the rest of us look bad.

You say that like it matters. The most important thing to me is what the worst guy on your force is going to do.

[Osiris]

And the next guy?

You mean the next officer? I can only speak for myself. Which is why I said what I did. It's a shame a few bad officers have made the rest of us look bad.

[Broncojohnny]

Not at all. It depends on the totality of the circumstances. If you provide me all your legit ID information, then no sweat off my brow if you refuse SSN. If you can't produce ID and only verbally ID yourself, I'll dig a little deeper. BCOOP: I understand what you're saying, and won't argue that. Shame a few bad apples taint the rest of us.

And the next guy?

[Osiris]

LE already has everyone's SSN who's been arrested for a class b or above, just FYI. It's not that tough to get it.

[Geor!]

Right, because LEO's never do anything illegal. They don't plant evidence, they don't drive drunk, they don't beat their wives, and the list goes on. If you think your bretheren are above that, you're naive as they come.

I don't even necessarily mean that the LEO would do something with it, but it is a very real concern. I don't want anyone but my employer and my creditors having my SSN. Period. Triplicate copies get lost, files get lost, files get stolen, shit gets hacked. Why run the added risk?

You don't provide your physicians with it?

[Osiris]

I love this thread, guilty until proven innocent. If the police can't identify you then you must be guilty unless you give us all sorts of sensitive personal information.

Not at all. It depends on the totality of the circumstances. If you provide me all your legit ID information, then no sweat off my brow if you refuse SSN. If you can't produce ID and only verbally ID yourself, I'll dig a little deeper. BCOOP: I understand what you're saying, and won't argue that. Shame a few bad apples taint the rest of us.

[Broncojohnny]

Why run the added risk?

I love this thread, guilty until proven innocent. If the police can't identify you then you must be guilty unless you give us all sorts of sensitive personal information.

[bcoop]

Thinking the police will steal your identity is tinfoil hat-ish as it is.

Right, because LEO's never do anything illegal. They don't plant evidence, they don't drive drunk, they don't beat their wives, and the list goes on. If you think your bretheren are above that, you're naive as they come.

I don't even necessarily mean that the LEO would do something with it, but it is a very real concern. I don't want anyone but my employer and my creditors having my SSN. Period. Triplicate copies get lost, files get lost, files get stolen, shit gets hacked. Why run the added risk?

[Osiris]

I've caught people for "Fail to ID-fugitive" when they verbally told ms their names and everything checked out - until I ran their social. The number came
Back to another person with pretty serious warrants. (on several occasions) again, this is only a tool to further ID people.

[Osiris]

With identity theft as common as it is, I think it's a real concern. I'm not giving an LEO my social, I don't care what the reason is. If that means going to jail because he wants to be a cock sucker, so be it.

My old agency had a field for the ssn. Whenever it was refused I simply wrote "refused" in that field and moved on if I already had person identified. Here's the catch as stated above. Whenever there's a warrant hit issued by an agency on a sound-alike, there's usually a SSN attached to it. The officer probably noticed a hit return and wanted to verify this was/was not the same person. Thinking the police will steal your identity is tinfoil hat-ish as it is. If a person has ever been arrested before, that persons SSN is already attached to his criminal history anyway... So not sure what the big deal is.

[bcoop]

Lmao. Some of you guys crack me up.

With identity theft as common as it is, I think it's a real concern. I'm not giving an LEO my social, I don't care what the reason is. If that means going to jail because he wants to be a cock sucker, so be it.

[JC316]

How does an adult not know their ss#? I never understood that.

I don't know, just never really had a reason to memorize it. The only times I have ever needed it was applying for a job and when I was in the hospital.

[Osiris]

Lmao. Some of you guys crack me up.