Ever been asked for your Social Security number during a traffic stop?

[Broncojohnny]

Common sense. It helps.

Let me spell it out for you.

If someone claims to have no ID, and the info comes back with a SOUNDEX hit and the physical characteristics are similar, the officer has enough reason to take you down and get you printed.

Simple enough?

I never said that an officer has reason to take you on the sole reason of not providing a SSN.

This was my favorite part, where you put in something that no one even mentioned to qualify your previous statement. If this was the third grade you'd be a real chess master.

[ELVIS]

Can I haz your $$N?

409-52-2002

god bless.

[03trubluGT]

am i making cents?

god bless.

Can I haz your $$N?

[ELVIS]

am i making cents?

god bless.

[03trubluGT]

Lmfao!!!

Is that your way of saying "Uncle"?


Well then, I accept.

[slow99]

Common sense. It helps.

Lmfao!!!

[03trubluGT]

So, there's a statute that says I have to give my ss# to an officer if there's a SOUNDEX hit?

Common sense. It helps.

Let me spell it out for you.

If someone claims to have no ID, and the info comes back with a SOUNDEX hit and the physical characteristics are similar, the officer has enough reason to take you down and get you printed.

Simple enough?

I never said that an officer has reason to take you on the sole reason of not providing a SSN.

[slow99]

That was for people that have no ID, or have a SOUNDEX hit.


Next time read the whole thread before you start calling someone out.

So, there's a statute that says I have to give my ss# to an officer if there's a SOUNDEX hit?

[03trubluGT]

Since we're bolding things ...

That was for people that have no ID, or have a SOUNDEX hit.


Next time read the whole thread before you start calling someone out.

[slow99]

Because the question is moot.

Sec. 38.02. FAILURE TO IDENTIFY. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.



Do you see SSN in that statute?

I don't either.


So, what's your next stupid question?

Since we're bolding things ...

This.

If there is a warrant with the same name, or a SOUNDEX hit, then the SSN is used to confirm or deny that it is the correct person.

For all of you that would refuse to give it, you're just giving the officer a reason to haul you in and have you fingerprinted. All the while your car is towed.

[03trubluGT]

did not read the entire thread but can you ask that it not be put on the citation? Aren't the citations scanned at the station and now someone has a full account of your name, address, DL and SS#...? Seems an unnecessary risk to put that on the form. Ask for the last 4 or something or just don't write it down.....still verified...hell, just write "verified".

<---unable to think dumber like cops have to.

Why would you even give out the last 4 unless absolutely necessary? That's all the info most companies ask when verifying ID. I could do a lot of damage with your name and last 4 of your SSN. One can find your DOB using the interwebz, and then they have all the necessary keys to start the damage.

[03trubluGT]

You didn't answer the question. What if an officer asked you for your SS#? You said you wouldn't give it out, and then you'd be in cuffs with you car towed. So what would you do when the officer put the cuffs on?

Because the question is moot.

Sec. 38.02. FAILURE TO IDENTIFY. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.
(b) A person commits an offense if he intentionally gives a false or fictitious name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has: (1) lawfully arrested the person;(2) lawfully detained the person; or(3) requested the information from a person that the peace officer has good cause to believe is a witness to a criminal offense.
(c) Except as provided by Subsections (d) and (e), an offense under this section is: (1) a Class C misdemeanor if the offense is committed under Subsection (a); or(2) a Class B misdemeanor if the offense is committed under Subsection (b).
(d) If it is shown on the trial of an offense under this section that the defendant was a fugitive from justice at the time of the offense, the offense is: (1) a Class B misdemeanor if the offense is committed under Subsection (a); or(2) a Class A misdemeanor if the offense is committed under Subsection (b).
(e) If conduct that constitutes an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under Section 106.07, Alcoholic Beverage Code, the actor may be prosecuted only under Section 106.07.


Do you see SSN in that statute?

I don't either.


So, what's your next stupid question?

[SS Junk]

With identity theft as common as it is, I think it's a real concern. I'm not giving an LEO my social, I don't care what the reason is. If that means going to jail because he wants to be a cock sucker, so be it.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Kind of like how you promised you'd call 03gingerGT a douche to his face and did not.

Lunch?

[BradM]

Just for clarification, I do not have a CDL and it is written on the hand written citation. Again, I had my D.L., CHL, insurance, etc. I have no criminal history whatsoever and my last name is not common.

Just because your name is not common doesn't mean no one else has it or a name that is very similar.

Never mind, just reread your post and saw it was written on the citation. Fuck if I know why he wanted it.

[dville_gt]

Just for clarification, I do not have a CDL and it is written on the hand written citation. Again, I had my D.L., CHL, insurance, etc. I have no criminal history whatsoever and my last name is not common.