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  • JC316
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    Originally posted by Lone Sailor View Post
    If having Checkpoints isn't part of the answer to catching them then what is? What are other options that YOU think should be used to catch impaired drivers? You're obviously against it Checkpoints hardcore, so do you have a stance on how to correct what you say is against your rights or are you just one of those guys that like to complain about laws on a message board? Maybe you'd rather law enforcement just quit worrying about impaired drivers altogether because they're really not a threat to anyone in society?
    Sure, spike strips leading out of a bar parking lot. In order to leave the bar, you have to pass a breathalyser test, then the spikes lower. Or you can have it receipt based, number of drinks followed by your weight and the time of drinking them, over the limit and the bar wont let you drive out.

    That would be one way of doing it.

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  • Lone Sailor
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    Originally posted by JC316 View Post
    The judicial system is broken. Odds are that you will wind up paying thousands and not getting a damn thing done. Just because people are getting behind the wheel drunk doesn't meant that the cops should be able to ignore the 4th amendment and stop anyone they damn well please.

    Railroad stops and traffic lights don't subject you to the whim of a person in power. I have never had much issue with cops, but there are cops with serious attitude problems out there.

    Just because a DUI checkpoint is fast doesn't justify them. I guess we should just throw what remaining rights we have away just because it's not THAT much of an inconvenience. I mean damn, we should be subject to house inspections every day, if you aren't doing anything illegal, then it should take that long. Think of all the drug dealers and terrorists that could be caught that way and how much safer we all will be.



    So we should lose our rights to protect some dumbfuck that decided to ride his bike while drunk? Good plan.

    If having Checkpoints isn't part of the answer to catching them then what is? What are other options that YOU think should be used to catch impaired drivers? You're obviously against it Checkpoints hardcore, so do you have a stance on how to correct what you say is against your rights or are you just one of those guys that like to complain about laws on a message board? Maybe you'd rather law enforcement just quit worrying about impaired drivers altogether because they're really not a threat to anyone in society?

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  • JC316
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    Originally posted by Lone Sailor View Post
    Harassment? Lulz. If someone is truly being harassed I hope they're growing a set of balls and do something about it through the judicial system. There is no call for being harassed, but that doesn't give anyone the right to legally get behind the wheel and drive while impaired on drugs and/or alcohol. Do you think random employee drug tests are harassment as well? I mean the majority of the workforce isn't doing a damn thing wrong yet you still have to provide a sample for testing or risk being fired for refusal. Maybe railroad crossings and traffic lights are harassment too? I mean who wants to wait for trains and other vehicles, it's a public road that you pay taxes on, might as well be able to go where you want, when you want without having the harassment of waiting. You can probably sue the railroad and TXDOT for this harassment and impeding your travel on public roads.

    Let's get realistic here, if you're truly not doing anything wrong(not impaired according to the sets laws in this State) you will pass through a DUI checkpoint without much more than 30 seconds of your time, if that much. You act like they stop every single vehicle and make each driver go through a full field sobriety test. I guess inconveniencing you for 30 seconds in order to help find and get drunk and impaired drivers off the road is completely and utterly unacceptable to you. Selfish much?
    The judicial system is broken. Odds are that you will wind up paying thousands and not getting a damn thing done. Just because people are getting behind the wheel drunk doesn't meant that the cops should be able to ignore the 4th amendment and stop anyone they damn well please.

    Railroad stops and traffic lights don't subject you to the whim of a person in power. I have never had much issue with cops, but there are cops with serious attitude problems out there.

    Just because a DUI checkpoint is fast doesn't justify them. I guess we should just throw what remaining rights we have away just because it's not THAT much of an inconvenience. I mean damn, we should be subject to house inspections every day, if you aren't doing anything illegal, then it should take that long. Think of all the drug dealers and terrorists that could be caught that way and how much safer we all will be.

    Originally posted by sig239 View Post
    Like the one who hit me at 120+ ?? He looked like a old raggedy Ann doll after we found his body. I'm betting there was not a bone in his body that wasn't broke or pulverized.
    Nothing like finding a person and checking for a pulse and looking into there dead eyes, knowing that some one is going to get a knock on there door telling them hes dead and there life will never be the same. Hope you do better than he did, he left kids with no life insurance.
    And you wonder why they do these check points,
    So we should lose our rights to protect some dumbfuck that decided to ride his bike while drunk? Good plan.

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  • 03trubluGT
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    This should be good. I know cops are told to let illegals go because of the paperwork. Hell look at what they're doing to Sheriff Joe in AZ
    Are u kidding? Some of the worst drunk drivers are illegals.

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  • sig239
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    Originally posted by ram57ta View Post
    I just got my new front tire mounted so the bikes good to go. I have found over the years that I can ride MUCH faster and better after several drinks than I can normally. I think I'm gonna set a new speed record tonight on GB. I'll see ya'll there.
    Like the one who hit me at 120+ ?? He looked like a old raggedy Ann doll after we found his body. I'm betting there was not a bone in his body that wasn't broke or pulverized.
    Nothing like finding a person and checking for a pulse and looking into there dead eyes, knowing that some one is going to get a knock on there door telling them hes dead and there life will never be the same. Hope you do better than he did, he left kids with no life insurance.
    And you wonder why they do these check points,

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  • KILLER69
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    A DWI is an expensive mistake.

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  • ram57ta
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    Originally posted by TeeShock View Post
    North Dallas Speedway?

    Or George Bush Raceway?
    I just got my new front tire mounted so the bikes good to go. I have found over the years that I can ride MUCH faster and better after several drinks than I can normally. I think I'm gonna set a new speed record tonight on GB. I'll see ya'll there.

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  • MattB
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    Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View Post
    Is it OK to tell the ladies it's a "no refusal weekend"?
    I've been saying that for years, ever since the first "no refusal" holiday bullshit started. Quit stealing my jokes!!

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  • idrivea4banger
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    Little by little were losing our rights.

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  • jdgregory84
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    Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View Post
    Is it OK to tell the ladies it's a "no refusal weekend"?
    Haha!

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  • 71chevellejohn
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    Is it OK to tell the ladies it's a "no refusal weekend"?

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  • forbes
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    Originally posted by sig239 View Post
    Sorry I must have missed the memo where driving was a right now.
    here are a few cases
    cut copy paste
    For years professionals within the criminal justice system have acted on the belief that traveling by motor vehicle was a privilege that was given to a citizen only after approval by their state government in the form of a permit or license to drive. In other words, the individual must be granted the privilege before his use of the state highways was considered legal. Legislators, police officers, and court officials are becoming aware that there are court decisions that disprove the belief that driving is a privilege and therefore requires government approval in the form of a license. Presented here are some of these cases:

    CASE #1: "The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.

    CASE #2: "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.

    It could not be stated more directly or conclusively that citizens of the states have a common law right to travel, without approval or restriction (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S Constitution.

    CASE #3: "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

    CASE #4: "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.

    As hard as it is for those of us in law enforcement to believe, there is no room for speculation in these court decisions. American citizens do indeed have the inalienable right to use the roadways unrestricted in any manner as long as they are not damaging or violating property or rights of others. Government -- in requiring the people to obtain drivers licenses, and accepting vehicle inspections and DUI/DWI roadblocks without question -- is restricting, and therefore violating, the people's common law right to travel.


    and to further educate yourself please enjoy http://www.apfn.org/apfn/travel.htm

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  • sig239
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    Originally posted by Lone Sailor View Post
    Harassment? Lulz. If someone is truly being harassed I hope they're growing a set of balls and do something about it through the judicial system. There is no call for being harassed, but that doesn't give anyone the right to legally get behind the wheel and drive while impaired on drugs and/or alcohol. Do you think random employee drug tests are harassment as well? I mean the majority of the workforce isn't doing a damn thing wrong yet you still have to provide a sample for testing or risk being fired for refusal. Maybe railroad crossings and traffic lights are harassment too? I mean who wants to wait for trains and other vehicles, it's a public road that you pay taxes on, might as well be able to go where you want, when you want without having the harassment of waiting. You can probably sue the railroad and TXDOT for this harassment and impeding your travel on public roads.

    Let's get realistic here, if you're truly not doing anything wrong(not impaired according to the sets laws in this State) you will pass through a DUI checkpoint without much more than 30 seconds of your time, if that much. You act like they stop every single vehicle and make each driver go through a full field sobriety test. I guess inconveniencing you for 30 seconds in order to help find and get drunk and impaired drivers off the road is completely and utterly unacceptable to you. Selfish much?

    I have my CDL so my bac has to be under.04. I get popped for random hair follicle test when ever some one pulls my number up. Do I like it? You bet I get extra money for the time it takes for me to go in for a test, I have never needed booze or drugs to enjoy life.

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  • Lone Sailor
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    Originally posted by JC316 View Post
    Sorry to hear. Still doesn't give cops the right to harass people that aren't doing anything wrong. DUI checkpoints are a clear example of this.
    Harassment? Lulz. If someone is truly being harassed I hope they're growing a set of balls and do something about it through the judicial system. There is no call for being harassed, but that doesn't give anyone the right to legally get behind the wheel and drive while impaired on drugs and/or alcohol. Do you think random employee drug tests are harassment as well? I mean the majority of the workforce isn't doing a damn thing wrong yet you still have to provide a sample for testing or risk being fired for refusal. Maybe railroad crossings and traffic lights are harassment too? I mean who wants to wait for trains and other vehicles, it's a public road that you pay taxes on, might as well be able to go where you want, when you want without having the harassment of waiting. You can probably sue the railroad and TXDOT for this harassment and impeding your travel on public roads.

    Let's get realistic here, if you're truly not doing anything wrong(not impaired according to the sets laws in this State) you will pass through a DUI checkpoint without much more than 30 seconds of your time, if that much. You act like they stop every single vehicle and make each driver go through a full field sobriety test. I guess inconveniencing you for 30 seconds in order to help find and get drunk and impaired drivers off the road is completely and utterly unacceptable to you. Selfish much?

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by sig239 View Post
    Sorry I must have missed the memo where driving was a right now.
    There aren't any memos issued for common sense.

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