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[dcs13]

It's a BAD deal nine ways from sunday no doubt. They did not know what door the suspect went in . They were knocking trying to locate the MURDER suspect and had a male subject open a door and point a gun at them. They made a decision in less than a second.
I would bet its like going door to door in Afganistan looking for insurgents. They all look like the nice guys. A door opens, the guy has a gun, DECISION TIME...friend or foe. Wrong decision, you go home in a box, or you killed a friendly.

It's a BAD deal. The cops or military don't go out and say "dang I think I will kill some innocent person today"... There will be mistakes made when humans are involved.
We all get to sit back and monday morning quarterback this stuff, while those involved get less than 1 second...
Hell, even dirty Harry shot a friendly target in magnum force...

[Forever_frost]

Back to the main topic...I "appears" some of this conduct by police is "accepted" by society. In Florida the DA could send to a grand jury or refer straight to prosecution. Hasn't happened yet ? IN Texas an Grand jury always reviews police shootings. There was no indictment on the Plano cop that shot and killed the unarmed drug suspect...
I wonder if sometimes people just chalk this up as "cost of doing business"? Otherwise if there was so much outrage , they would indict ?

And I don't see where Matt is "defending" this guy. He is just offering ideas about what can happen. THey were chasing a murder suspect at night, stoner points a gun at the cop. NOt a good thing. Yeah it sucks that the dude dies, but it was a bunch of bad shit that happened at once...

They opened fire on an innocent man in his own home at 1 am. Instead of saying "Damn, they fucked up" and not trying to blame the homeowner, he immediately jumped to "Well you point a gun at me and you're dead too."

[TEAMJACOB]

I wouldn't put it past some of you gutless pukes.

But, If you notice, this is all done on my time and on my resources.

Also take into consideration the tit-for-tat posts, this wouldn't go far.


Like I've said before, those that dish it out but can't take it seem to have the biggest hard on for me.

That's not what tit for tat means

[dcs13]

Back to the main topic...I "appears" some of this conduct by police is "accepted" by society. In Florida the DA could send to a grand jury or refer straight to prosecution. Hasn't happened yet ? IN Texas an Grand jury always reviews police shootings. There was no indictment on the Plano cop that shot and killed the unarmed drug suspect...
I wonder if sometimes people just chalk this up as "cost of doing business"? Otherwise if there was so much outrage , they would indict ?

And I don't see where Matt is "defending" this guy. He is just offering ideas about what can happen. THey were chasing a murder suspect at night, stoner points a gun at the cop. NOt a good thing. Yeah it sucks that the dude dies, but it was a bunch of bad shit that happened at once...

[inline 6]

Your right man it's all of "us" and your not the problem at all.

[idrivea4banger]

03trublu is 1 post short of about 9.

[03trubluGT]

T-minus 216 hours until rebuttal..

You know Sean, you puppets are all on my time schedule.

Fact.

[03trubluGT]

Well, at least all of his comments have been quoted, if/when he starts the shit I'm sure his higher-ups would like a copy of them.

Stevo

I wouldn't put it past some of you gutless pukes.

But, If you notice, this is all done on my time and on my resources.

Also take into consideration the tit-for-tat posts, this wouldn't go far.


Like I've said before, those that dish it out but can't take it seem to have the biggest hard on for me.

[03trubluGT]

That's what flipped me from trying to see his side to completely disliking him. Granted, it's not often a board reputation hurts ya. However, I have to assume people are behaving as they normally would.

Ya never know when posting on the job forum, asking for votes on some BS or another, or trying to buy/sell something that your reputation hurts the responses you get. I have to assume he's posting his true opinions.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

Or if you do, just think how you let a few e-idiots fool you.


Your choice.

[03trubluGT]

I don't think he drinks, but sometimes he comes across as a drunking maniac and I picture him beating the keyboard and screaming at the screen while yelling fuck Henry, Alan, Eric and Brent.

I wonder what the hell his wife thinks, lol!

I was waiting for you to chime in again.

What a sorry excuse for a mod.

A real mod should remain impartial and unbiased, but when you join in stuff like this, you prove that you should not be trusted with power and authority.

Wait, just think if you were a cop! You'd be one of those power hungry - jack booted thugs that you say you hate. Imagine that.....

[03trubluGT]

Yeah, Matt put the full onus on the owner of the apartment. Not once did he say "Damn, that officer shot an innocent guy. He should go to jail."

You just won't understand. Say you were back in Iraq clearing a building and someone ran out at you with a gun. I guess you would do nothing? Don't you see how idiotic your view is? Just because this didn't happen in Iraq does not change the rules. If someone points a gun at you.......


fuck it... Nevermind.....

Or you will do what?

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That's the response I expected from you. Instead of proving your point, just make a deflecting comment. You're such an e-punk. You are a perfect match for Eric.

Matt,
You do know if you, every so often, came out and said, without qualifiers, that "Damn. That officer was in the wrong. I hope justice is done." No differing responsibility onto anyone else, no "but...' statements. Straight up admitting it was wrong, you may help foster a change of seeing officers as "us versus them"

And I have. But people just like you don't get it, or refuse to get it. There have been plenty of instances here and Canada where I flat out said the cop fucked up. Like the subway shooting in California where the cop "thought" he was going to Taze the guy and used his gun.

But nooooooooooooooooo, nobody wants to acknowledge that. They want to live in the "Let's gang up on and crucify the LEO for having an opinion"
What happened to respecting someone for an opinion, even if it doesn't agree with yours?

He isn't interested in that. He is interested in trolling. Unfortunately he sucks at it. Granted he has gotten better lately since Eric has ruthlessly beaten him about the head face and neck.

Eric has always been and will always be a disgruntled, angry e-warrior. He never played contact sports, he never served his country, and he has chosen a desk job. Wow, now that's a fighter for you.....

Sometimes I shake my head in disbelief that I fought a foreign war for my country to protect cowards like Eric so he can go online and bully people.

Is that why people serve? To protect gutless pukes like Eric and Alan?

Talk about performing an under appreciated public service....

You are a legend in your own mind.

[racrguy]

Hey Matt. Fuck you dude.

[03trubluGT]

I don't see it as them talking down but more or so pointing out the retards. You hide behind your badge and think you're so much better than the normal folk. That badge means shit when you continue to act like a total moron on here. You're just another LEO with the billy bad ass syndrome.


Why the fuck am I even responding to this nonsense?!?!

Of course you would see it that way! Why am I not surprised?

[03trubluGT]

And it isn't like you would tell the truth if it had happened to you huh little Matty? You have already demonstrated that you are a liar, I don't know why you would think you have any credibility, much less with anecdotal evidence.

Again, Alan, I point out you were wrong and you just dodge the subject.

Good job.

And you want to criticize me?

[03trubluGT]

I'm jumping to conclusions? Here I took the liberty of putting most of your on topic posts below. How the fuck can most of these be interpreted as anything but defending them? You didn't provide "logical" explanations to anything, you responded like a pompous ass with a hard on for your brothers in blue.
I guess you sidestepped your way around saying they did it 100% right, but you sure as fuck made it clear that the victim did it 100% wrong.

So I'll rephrase the question, would your replies be any different if the victim had been a member of your family?


It is what it is.

You misinterpret whatever I say just for the sake of argument. I can't help your piss poor perception, just like I can't help Alan, Eric, or Brent.

I would not like it, but what the hell would I do? Being related to the "victim" does not changed things one bit. A truth is a truth no matter the viewpoint.









This is the only place where you kind of admitted they might have fucked up. Kudos

It is what it is.

You misinterpret whatever I say just for the sake of argument. I can't help your piss poor perception, just like I can't help Alan, Eric, or Brent.

I would not like it, but what the hell would I do? Being related to the "victim" does not changed things one bit. A truth is a truth no matter the viewpoint.