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Director Tony Scott comitts suicide.
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Originally posted by CJ View PostWhat's pathetic is you claiming we're speaking from a moral high horse, while simultaneously you preach from the same standpoint. What makes you right? Because it makes you feel better? Get real, the man killed himself in the highest form of selfishness there is. That's the fact, and that's the only thing I'm focusing on. If you makes you feel better to defend the guy and judge others, go right ahead. I'm not on the warm and fuzzy train, I try to keep things cold logical.
Originally posted by CJ View PostExactly my point Brent. Tony Scott doesn't give two flying fucks what I think. He also doesn't give two fucking fucks about his kids, and two fucks about his wife, or his family and friends. And that is exactly why I don't give a shit about his selfish decision, and why I have zero compassion for the guy. And, that's also why I find it perplexing you feel the need to defend him and insult other people on his behalf, considering he doesn't give two flying fucks about anything including his own family? I couldn't have said it better myself.
Originally posted by VaderTT View PostLMAO, so this one is different because you didn't know someone who new the dude? or is it because he was rich and successful?
Originally posted by Nash B. View PostKilled himself - fact.
Killed himself in the highest form of selfishness there is - opinion.
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Originally posted by Nash B. View PostKilled himself - fact.
Killed himself in the highest form of selfishness there is - opinion.
It's an opinion, but I logically cannot think of a higher form of selfishness.
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Originally posted by Jester View PostAlot of people do it because of the question "what's the point?"
When I was diagnosed wrong and put on heavy meds, they made me suicidal and one day I took 2 bottles of heavy duty knock you dead pills. the wife walked in on me right after I took them and she called 911. I don't remember any of it. I remember taking the pills, frantically writing a note, and then i remember waking up in ICU. Once they got me off those fucking meds, I was completely different. Anyway, while I was in a rehab/mental place for a week afterwards, my roommate was a suicide watch as well. he was in his 50's and was also a former Marine. A successful man with no reason to kill himself.....just like me......except he had the same question I did: "what's the point?"
Well, I don't know what the point is, but I do know that keeping yourself busy in projects and forcing yourself to get some damned sunlight and exercise has completely changed me. If you have never been in the place as someone that tries suicide, you have no idea of how lonely and depressed you can actually feel. You try to kill yourself because you actually think the world would be better off without you. I honestly thought it was the least selfish thing I could do for the world.
sorry you lost a friend and im very sorry a human being can ever feel that bad.Originally posted by Jester View PostYou honestly think like you are gonna fuck your kids up if you stay around. You feel that your wife will find a better man and a better father for the kids. It is such a low place to be.Originally posted by Jester View Postwell, spoken like a true fuckin retard. I used to think the exact same way. You don't know this man's mindset. To a person on the edge, it is the least selfish and bravest thing he can do. You think it is as simple as just pulling the trigger? Your are going against EVERYTHING inside of you trying to live. It was the hardest thing I ever did. Im glad I was lucky and lived. But to call someone a coward or pussy for it. lol until you have been there, you dont know. And when I hear "oh, I have been there." I ask, well did you kill yourself? you either failed or you have not been there. I put on the Marine Corps uniform and would happily walk into any situation requiring my sacrifice to protect others, yet morons that talk out of their ass call suicide the cowards way out. No, it is anything but that. It is the end of the game for someone that has lost interest in playing.
A suicidal person is anything but a coward. they are simply a person that is empty inside. they get no pleasure out of anything. they dont smile or laugh, or care. they are dead inside.
and you know what really doesnt help? waking the fuck up in an ICU after already thinking for months you sucked at life and you couldnt do anything right...........well, not even being able to kill yourself doesnt make you feel much better. lol
Sure, a shotgun in the mouth is probably gonna do the trick most of the time, but what if you just manage to blow your fucking face off? and holy fuck, think about the mess that someone is gonna have to clean up. Hang yourself? Well, maybe, but that is a creepy thing for someone to walk in on. throw yourself off a bridge? well, what if I decide I love skydiving on the way down and that's all I needed?
Pills........lots and lots and lots of pills. get in the bathtub, write a note explaining how much this was no ones fault and that you think that everyone would be better off without you around. You swallow as many pills as fast as you can while forcing yourself to swallow them with a glassy eyed stare and your brain screaming at you to stop. but you just keep shoving them in and drinking water until all the bottles are empty. then you climb into the bathtub(that way when you piss and shit yourself upon death, atleast they can just wash it down the drain) and you close your eyes and wait. you think about everything. you wait. you feel like a failure and you wait. you cry. and you wait. just sitting there and waiting and feeling bad that your are doing this, but glad that you can no longer fuck anyone else up around you. Kinda like that old car that you are tired of putting money into and just get rid of it. You feel like that. You feel it is time for everyone around you to not have to deal with that fucked up old car anymore.
and that's it. you wake up and realize you are given a second chance, or you don't.
If anyone out there is reading this and considering suicide.....send me a pm and lets talk. doesnt have to be about suicide......let's just talk.
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Originally posted by Whiteboy View Postlol fuck him. He had it so bad.
lmao, right?
Oh, that poor millionaire that can spend his days fucking hot women and driving ferraris. Must suck!
Here is a crazy idea.......BUY ANY OTHER FUCKING CAR ON THE FUCKING PLANET THAN A PRIUS!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by Jester View Posti think viagara, a cute little redhead, and a classic ferrari with the top down would have fixed his depression.
How in the fuck do you want to kill yourself when you are stupid rich, make great movies, and live in Beverly Hills?
I mean, you made it. You did it. You won the game. Enjoy banging the princess!
LMAO, so this one is different because you didn't know someone who knew the dude? or is it because he was rich and successful?
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Originally posted by bcoop View PostI can assure you that Tony Scott doesn't give two flying fucks what you think.
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Originally posted by bcoop View PostI said the act was selfish. I made no derogatory comments about the person, unlike everyone in this thread short of Jody, Jason, Scott, and SS Junk. All of the comments below are classless. Most are pathetic, and ooze jealousy.
I can assure you that Tony Scott doesn't give two flying fucks what you think. And I can assure you, I don't either. I'm not absolving anyone of anything. You don't know the demons he had. You don't know what he was obviously battling with, every single day of his life. You have absolutely no right to sit there on your moral high horse, and judge. Yes, that is classless. And yes, that is pathetic. Let the man rest in peace for crying out loud. It's obvious peace is the one thing he didn't have. Instead, you want to call him a pussy and drag his name through the mud. THAT is what is pathetic. There are ways to convey your thoughts about the act without disrespecting the Man and his family. Yes, that is classless, and pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't have the first clue about the man's life, who are you to judge?
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Originally posted by CJ View PostIt doesn't make you pathetic for calling someone who killed themselves selfish - you just did it. And knowing someone could only obscure the truth of how selfish this decision is. I had a very good friend shoot himself, I spoke to him a few hours before beforehand trying to cheer him up. After seeing the pain and suffering such a selfish decision causes I have no sympathy for it. What I think is classless and pathetic is for other people to attempt to absolve the sole person responsible.
I can assure you that Tony Scott doesn't give two flying fucks what you think. And I can assure you, I don't either. I'm not absolving anyone of anything. You don't know the demons he had. You don't know what he was obviously battling with, every single day of his life. You have absolutely no right to sit there on your moral high horse, and judge. Yes, that is classless. And yes, that is pathetic. Let the man rest in peace for crying out loud. It's obvious peace is the one thing he didn't have. Instead, you want to call him a pussy and drag his name through the mud. THAT is what is pathetic. There are ways to convey your thoughts about the act without disrespecting the Man and his family. Yes, that is classless, and pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't have the first clue about the man's life, who are you to judge?
Originally posted by Whiteboy View Postlol fuck him. He had it so bad.Originally posted by Jester View Postlmao, right?
Oh, that poor millionaire that can spend his days fucking hot women and driving ferraris. Must suck!
Here is a crazy idea.......BUY ANY OTHER FUCKING CAR ON THE FUCKING PLANET THAN A PRIUS!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by Jester View Posti think viagara, a cute little redhead, and a classic ferrari with the top down would have fixed his depression.
How in the fuck do you want to kill yourself when you are stupid rich, make great movies, and live in Beverly Hills?
I mean, you made it. You did it. You won the game. Enjoy banging the princess!Originally posted by 01vnms4v View PostNo wonder why he did it, HE DROVE A FUCKING PRIUS!!!Originally posted by CJ View PostIt takes a special piece of shit to jump off a bridge with twins and a wife at home. Just ridiculous selfishness.Originally posted by CJ View PostIt's the one where we call people a piece of shit for killing themselves. "Going through things" does not absolve you from your actions.Originally posted by Big A View PostApperently being a father and husband lost it's luster as well.Originally posted by CJ View PostAnd an accomplished director/millionaire.
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This makes me want to go home and watch Crimson Tide, Man on Fire, Spy Game, and Top Gun
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Originally posted by bcoop View PostI know this may come as a shock to all of you, but material things don't mean happiness. Sometimes a wife and kids don't mean happiness. Money certainly doesn't mean happiness. And a successful career doesn't mean happiness either.
A close friend of mine, with an obscene net worth, and incredibly successful career committed suicide. He had everything anyone could have ever wanted, when it came to material possessions. Is suicide a selfish act? Sure. Does it hurt everyone around that cares about you? Absolutely. But don't act like you know what demons he was struggling with. Yes, everyone grieves in different ways, and one of those coping mechanisms is anger. But seeing as how none of you knew Tony Scott personally, that makes you classless and pathetic.
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I know this may come as a shock to all of you, but material things don't mean happiness. Sometimes a wife and kids don't mean happiness. Money certainly doesn't mean happiness. And a successful career doesn't mean happiness either.
A close friend of mine, with an obscene net worth, and incredibly successful career committed suicide. He had everything anyone could have ever wanted, when it came to material possessions. Is suicide a selfish act? Sure. Does it hurt everyone around that cares about you? Absolutely. But don't act like you know what demons he was struggling with. Yes, everyone grieves in different ways, and one of those coping mechanisms is anger. But seeing as how none of you knew Tony Scott personally, that makes you classless and pathetic.
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