Farewell America

[Ruffdaddy]

I disagree. They weren't about the "easy" way out. DOHCTR, on the other hand, is.

Lol at moving to to a new country when you have everything you could want at home as being the easy way out.

[Chili]

I disagree. They weren't about the "easy" way out.

Unfortunately our society today is.

[Ruffdaddy]

I know what you're saying and I'm telling you I think you're opinion is stupid. Look at it this way...he's doing way more than any of us. Take the money makers out of this country and things will change. Your blind allegiance to America is flawed. You've gotta be decently older.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Those who fought for America would not have chosen that path if there was another option this easy.

I disagree. They weren't about the "easy" way out. DOHCTR, on the other hand, is.

[JC316]

I get that, but don't they suffer from a lot of same government issues that he is seeking to avoid?

Yes they do. I have a friend over there and the government is just as fucked up as it is here. Hell, up till recently, they couldn't even get M rated video games due to the governments interference. Then there is the lack of guns, the utterly ridiculous way they have the phone and internet structured, the lack of a decent power grid, my friend doesn't even run the A/C in the summer due to it. Their gas prices aren't that much worse than ours, I think he was paying a little over $5 a gallon and they use natural gas a lot.

[Chili]

Your problem is he's leaving because he doesn't agree with things.

Not exactly. I don't think we are on the same page.

[Snatch Napkin]

Some of the contention could also come from how easy it is these days.

Immigrants of that age had a rough time crossing the pond.

[Chili]

Do you know what immigration is? Floods of people immigrated here after America was established. Yall are some one track thinking fools.

Dude, I am all for immigration. To or from the US. People should be able to move and find opportunity for them and their family.

But one more time. He is the one who started this thread saying that he does not like how things are going, therefore he is leaving and not coming back. He is the one saying that the American dream is dead and that he's jumping ship.

THAT IS WHAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH.

He came here volunteering that, trying to justify what he was doing.

[Ruffdaddy]

Is that what he is doing? Hell no. He's not going off to some unexplored land in an attempt to start something new. He is running away. You are way off base trying to compare what he is doing to what this nations founding fathers did.

I'm not just talking founding fathers. I'm talking all the immigrants that contributed as well.

Your problem is he's leaving because he doesn't agree with things. If he can go elsewhere why shouldn't he? He's doing more than any of us. Those who fought for America would not have chosen that path if there was another option this easy.

[Snatch Napkin]

I get that, but don't they suffer from a lot of same government issues that he is seeking to avoid?

Some of the same issues, but at least the Prime Minister told the muslims to get bent over thinking Sharia Law had any place in Australia.


I will be interested to read updates on this venture. It will be cool to hear it from the viewpoint of "one of us".

[Treybiz]

Good Luck..

I don't fault ya for it.

[exlude]

Good luck.



I would assume similar culture/language and not cold like Europe/Canada.

I get that, but don't they suffer from a lot of same government issues that he is seeking to avoid?

[Chili]

America was founded on people leaving their old govt because of the same bullshit. Do you not get this???

Is that what he is doing? Hell no. He's not going off to some unexplored land in an attempt to start something new. He is running away. You are way off base trying to compare what he is doing to what this nations founding fathers did.

[95ragtop]

I will agree that that's the way to go about it but I don't think I could do it with all the PC Bullshit and red tape you have to deal with now. Our Grandfathers would just shoot the people they didn't like and it seemed to work a little different back then.

Then find other ways if you actually want to help, go be an aid for someone you believe in, go do some volunteer work, or hell go to an old folks home and get their opinion on how things should be run. Not going to touch that last sentence until tomorrow.

[Snatch Napkin]

America was founded on people leaving their old govt because of the same bullshit. Do you not get this???

I absolutely do, which is why I congratulated DOHCTR in the first place.

The flip side of that coin is that the folks who founded America also had to fight tooth and nail for what they got. A lot of people died for this.

I don't think he's gonna have to go to war in Australia unless he does something stupid like trying to beat the shit out of some aboriginals for a plot of land. Maybe he could take some blankets with smallpox to offer the chief.

I see both sides of this discussion and agree with them as well. I just lean more on the side of Chili, at this time.