Employment Contract Negotiations

[black2002ls]

I would probably counter offer, but since i dont drive for a living i dont know what is an appropriate counter. Sounds like youre ok with the base/bonus if you werent paying 600/mo in gas.

I don't really know that I am ok with that as a base. Granted, I make less than 10/hr now. I believe I am worth more than 32/yr.

Here is the flip side of the coin, this is the first real offer I have had since graduation. This position is in no way related to my degree so it doesn't help me in this instance.

I have another round of applications in for technical positions, from entry level ME to basic drafting.

[Pro88LX]

The question now is, do I counter, or do I pass. If I counter, what number do I throw out.

I was talking to my buddy who works there, and he put it this way "it sounds like they offered you fresh out of college money". I am torn with this statement. I know I am worth more than 32K/yr. But on the other hand, I am no more experienced than someone who is fresh out of college, so why should I expect a company to pay more for my employment.

If my estimates are correct on the mileage, I am looking at $7K in fuel expenses over a 12 month period, subtract their $250/qtr allowance and its $6K.

I would probably counter offer, but since i dont drive for a living i dont know what is an appropriate counter. Sounds like youre ok with the base/bonus if you werent paying 600/mo in gas.

[black2002ls]

The question now is, do I counter, or do I pass. If I counter, what number do I throw out.

I was talking to my buddy who works there, and he put it this way "it sounds like they offered you fresh out of college money". I am torn with this statement. I know I am worth more than 32K/yr. But on the other hand, I am no more experienced than someone who is fresh out of college, so why should I expect a company to pay more for my employment.

If my estimates are correct on the mileage, I am looking at $7K in fuel expenses over a 12 month period, subtract their $250/qtr allowance and its $6K.

[Pro88LX]

$250/qtr gas alowance and you have to use your personal vehicle daily?? id be out on that....

BUT, you may want to look into the fact that all your fuel/maintenance/vehicle depriciation may be a writeoff and save you a bit on taxes.

[black2002ls]

A small development this morning. I got a call from the first guy I interviewed with this morning. Keep in mind, this is about a month and a half after my final interview. They made me a formal offer today. $32K base, bonus potential, $250/qtr gas allowance. I don't know anything about the health benefits other than the fact that they go into effect on day 1.

I am very torn at this point. On one hand, it is a bit more money, I get out of retail into a "real job". On the other hand, once it is broken down, the base salary is only a couple hundred dollars more than my current pay checks after taxes and deductions. My fuel bill is going to triple or quadruple, I will eat up the fuel allowance in the first quarter of a month, let alone quarter of the year. I live in Greenville, and the "home office" for this position is in Forney. Round trip just to the office will be 80 miles, I will be traveling to established sub divisions (not sure where at this point) through out the day using my personal vehicle. I would venture to say that is going to add ~50 miles/day to my commute, so 130 miles every day. I estimate about $600/mo in gas alone, filling up twice a week. Of course, once I was in a position to do so, I would pick up a more fuel efficient commuter, my truck only gets 21 mpg.....

[black2002ls]

The latest round of "we found better candidates but will keep your info on file just in case" emails have started trickling in. I found a couple of inside sources at a few companies who took my resume to internal recruiters. Each one basically said it would be a no brainer if you had experience. How do you get experience for entry level positions if no one is willing to give you a chance!

A few here on the board have stepped forward to look at and audit my resume, for that I am grateful. I check job boards and company sires 2-3 times a week and apply for jobs I feel I am semi qualified for.

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[Grant]

This thread is great, haha. How many of you consider the value/cost of benefits when determining your total remuneration as well?

[black2002ls]

You need to get a LinkedIn account and update it as complete as possible. Network with the companies and recruiters for what you are looking to do.

Don't pay for anything, but you need to network.

I finally got an e-mail sent your way. I've had a linkedin profile for several years. I've been adding contacts weekly if not daily at times.

[Roscoe]

A little bump here. any recommendations on who to talk to or where to post my resume. All I get from CB/Monster are BS offers from insurance agencies. Do I need to pay for a service to get solid leads? Any recruiters that I could talk to? I thought I had some solid leads/inside tracks here the last month, but nothing has panned out. Is my experience/education really THAT pathetic?

You need to get a LinkedIn account and update it as complete as possible. Network with the companies and recruiters for what you are looking to do.

Don't pay for anything, but you need to network.

[black2002ls]

A little bump here. any recommendations on who to talk to or where to post my resume. All I get from CB/Monster are BS offers from insurance agencies. Do I need to pay for a service to get solid leads? Any recruiters that I could talk to? I thought I had some solid leads/inside tracks here the last month, but nothing has panned out. Is my experience/education really THAT pathetic?

[idrivea4banger]

You mean from town to town on your tour bus? It sucks that you guys were more of a one hit wonder. You were awesome when you opened for Carlos Santana.

We do cover songs now. Its been a long hard road out of hell.

[black2002ls]

Good luck with the potential job opportunity. I went from job to job over the years to end up where I'm at. I did have to start off with a low pay rate but after 5 years i make a decent income, not $$$choo$$$choo but its enough for me. I know it can be stressful going from job application to job application, interview to interview with no end in sight. There has been some good advice given in here. Don't be afraid to let potential employers know what you feel your skill set is worth. I'll keep an ear open for anything out there for you Russell.

Shit, I wish it was an issue of interview to interview. This has been the only solid interview opportunity I've had since graduation. Granted I've had interviews. One was for internet sales at a car dealership, one was for a bar manager position, and the other was for a receiving position at Cavender's.

[BMCSean]

Good luck with the potential job opportunity. I went from job to job over the years to end up where I'm at. I did have to start off with a low pay rate but after 5 years i make a decent income, not $$$choo$$$choo but its enough for me. I know it can be stressful going from job application to job application, interview to interview with no end in sight. There has been some good advice given in here. Don't be afraid to let potential employers know what you feel your skill set is worth. I'll keep an ear open for anything out there for you Russell.

You mean from town to town on your tour bus? It sucks that you guys were more of a one hit wonder. You were awesome when you opened for Carlos Santana.

[idrivea4banger]

Good luck with the potential job opportunity. I went from job to job over the years to end up where I'm at. I did have to start off with a low pay rate but after 5 years i make a decent income, not $$$choo$$$choo but its enough for me. I know it can be stressful going from job application to job application, interview to interview with no end in sight. There has been some good advice given in here. Don't be afraid to let potential employers know what you feel your skill set is worth. I'll keep an ear open for anything out there for you Russell.

[Kimmypie]

Kimmypie, completely off topic but do you live in the Saginaw area, there's a '13 Mustang with the same wheels and color down my street.

No Thehead & I are in Irving.