Jury awards Ventura $1.8M in Chris Kyle defamation case

[Ruffdaddy]

Don't all LEOs have the equivalent to a collateral clearance? This type of incident wouldn't be considered grave to national security so I doubt it would any higher than that...if it happened like you said.

Sounds like Z06killinsbf and I have access to the same place, so if you guys think I'm the next CPA I could always meet him in D-Wing next week. He could check the color on my badge and report back if i'm full of shit. Hell, I'll even show him my DD-214.

Lol at Raytheon Mckinney Being where you guys share all your secret shit. Trust me...I aware of who Z06 is...and he's not involved in the TS, black and above shit you think he is. Having a clearance isn't the same as dealing with the details.

Playing like you know more than you do isn't a good call. Hopefully Z06 will tell you to back off soon.

[dsrtuckteezy]

Don't all LEOs have the equivalent to a collateral clearance? This type of incident wouldn't be considered grave to national security so I doubt it would any higher than that...if it happened like you said.

Sounds like Z06killinsbf and I have access to the same place, so if you guys think I'm the next CPA I could always meet him in D-Wing next week. He could check the color on my badge and report back if i'm full of shit. Hell, I'll even show him my DD-214.

Joshstang?

[josh9167]

There is absolutely no way that a shooting in a public setting got covered up and swept away. No way. I respect the shit out of what he did for our country and in protecting his fellow military brothers. But nope, no way it happened and someone hasn't come forward.

Secondly, if you are witness to classified you either have the appropriate level of clearance AND a need-to-know or you simply sign an inadvertent disclosure form. I mean shit, they disclosed who killed OBL with in days.

Don't all LEOs have the equivalent to a collateral clearance? This type of incident wouldn't be considered grave to national security so I doubt it would any higher than that...if it happened like you said.

Sounds like Z06killinsbf and I have access to the same place, so if you guys think I'm the next CPA I could always meet him in D-Wing next week. He could check the color on my badge and report back if i'm full of shit. Hell, I'll even show him my DD-214.

[Ruffdaddy]

Well that and I found that the military classifies virtually everything SECRET because they put CONFIDENTIAL and just plain silly shit on their high side. It gets passed around and now Joe Private says that the ingredients to Chili-mac is TS and he will have to slit your throat if you spill the beans...pun intended.

Lol...I was just telling a coworker today about how frustrating it actually was to work in certain sections of the defense industry. And I never had it as bad as some of the other guys. It's not nearly as glamorous as people think it is.

In saying that...some of the projects in the O&G industry have been almost as secretive as the some of the defense projects I've worked.

[LANTIRN]

Well that and I found that the military classifies virtually everything SECRET because they put CONFIDENTIAL and just plain silly shit on their high side. It gets passed around and now Joe Private says that the ingredients to Chili-mac is TS and he will have to slit your throat if you spill the beans...pun intended.

And now I'm hungry for chili-mac.

[KBScobravert]

Yep...anyone whose had a proper clearance knows better.

Well that and I found that the military classifies virtually everything SECRET because they put CONFIDENTIAL and just plain silly shit on their high side. It gets passed around and now Joe Private says that the ingredients to Chili-mac is TS and he will have to slit your throat if you spill the beans...pun intended.

[Ruffdaddy]

There is absolutely no way that a shooting in a public setting got covered up and swept away. No way. I respect the shit out of what he did for our country and in protecting his fellow military brothers. But nope, no way it happened and someone hasn't come forward.

Secondly, if you are witness to classified you either have the appropriate level of clearance AND a need-to-know or you simply sign an inadvertent disclosure form. I mean shit, they disclosed who killed OBL with in days.

Yep...anyone whose had a proper clearance knows better.

[KBScobravert]

There is absolutely no way that a shooting in a public setting got covered up and swept away. No way. I respect the shit out of what he did for our country and in protecting his fellow military brothers. But nope, no way it happened and someone hasn't come forward.

Secondly, if you are witness to classified you either have the appropriate level of clearance AND a need-to-know or you simply sign an inadvertent disclosure form. I mean shit, they disclosed who killed OBL with in days.

[Ruffdaddy]

You're right, I'm lying. I'm really a CPA that makes Choo Choo money and loves cow skin rugs.

Stretching your story like none other. We all know better scro.

[josh9167]

Basically he's saying he doesn't know as much as he wants you to think he knows...

The never tell you what you saw after the fact. That shit comes long before you see anything.

You're right, I'm lying. I'm really a CPA that makes Choo Choo money and loves cow skin rugs.

[LANTIRN]

It's total bullshit. You don't shoot someone and not have it go to a grand jury in Texas.

I thought if it was obviously a legal shoot sometimes it didn't even go that far? I may be wrong though since there is so much misinformation online, plus the I don't know that much about law.

[cyclonescott]

The more I read into this story it just come off as such an odd thing for a guy like Chris to have gone after Jesse with this what has proven to be a completely farcical story. With all the shit that went down during his military career as a decorated sniper and SEAL he feels the need to make up this story to sell a book? It just doesn't add up. From what it appears up to the point that this story came out Jesse was in good standing with the SEAL community and everyone seemed to benefit from it. Yes Jesse hosted a conspiracy show on TV and was critical of the invasion of Iraq stating that it had nothing to do with 9/11, but I don't think he had ever had an instance where he shit on the military as if our decision to go to war was up to the troops. And the premise of Jesse saying those things in a bar with the family present of the SEAL that was KIA is such a low-down despicable thing to be accused of. When I heard about it it really made me think shit of Jesse. I don't especially support anyone involved, but I'm glad the truth finally came out. I can't imagine what that feels like to know you're being thrown under the bus and virtually no one believes your side of the story. Even now after years have passed by and the other stories and all the proof people will still say they don't buy it. His life really did get turned upside down by this guy for some reason. I go even one step further now and say Jesse has some serious balls for staying his course because no matter what he did people were going to fucking hate him. He probably would have been better off just crawling under a rock for the rest of his life. There is some serious venom in people veins for him even now just about these Chris Kyle shenanigans.

I've known some people who would just make up these crazy ass stories just for attention. I use the term "one uppers" for them because every time you are in a group just talking they will always come up with a whopper that you and everyone knows is total bullshit and is just a bit more over the top than anything said to that point. It's like a sickness or something. Chris Kyle had and exemplary military career and even after his service was still heavily involved with helping service members who suffered from PTSD and other disabilities. It's a terrible tragedy the way he was killed and I'm as sorry as anyone for his wife and kids. But this doesn't change the fact that he said some of the most awful shitty things about someone ruining their character for life for what appears to be no good reason other than what people can only guess was to sell a book.

^^^This guy gets it.^^^^

The media went after Jesse because of his views on 9-11 and it sounds like Kyle was happy to play along. If Jesse was as big of piece of shit as some would like to believe he would have pressed charges and sued Kyle for assault a long time ago for the fight that never happened.

[LANTIRN]

Just what is it you do for a living, Mr. I Never Seen Shit?

He could tell you, but he would have to kill you.

[Ruffdaddy]

Basically he's saying he doesn't know as much as he wants you to think he knows...

The never tell you what you saw after the fact. That shit comes long before you see anything.

[josh9167]

Just what is it you do for a living, Mr. I Never Seen Shit?

Pretty much nerd stuff, but it's a field called Electronic Warfare (EW). There are many facets to it, but I specialize in counter Integrated Air Defense Systems (IADS). What that means is I help build Radar jammers.

When I was 19 I didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up so I figured I would join the military. I picked the AF because my step-dad was in it and he got to travel the world. I did pretty well on the ASVAB so I had my pick of jobs. I saw EW and thought that since it had electronics in it, and warfare, that it must be pretty cool.

My first and only duty assignment was in Special Operations. I supported JSOAC on all of my deployments overseas and after my enlistment got out. I was a contractor for a couple of years before going back to school. I got my E.E. and got back into the same field.