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An open question to those who would kill a police officer....
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Almost without exception every single law that is malum prohibitum. Not to mention the loss of personal property rights in regards to the civil forfeiture laws and the governments war on the bill of rights.
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Other than traffic laws, which ones specifically are unjust?Originally posted by svo855 View PostI am not a FTP type; I am more of a law and order type of guy and haven't gotten a ticket in 10 + years. My adopted father was also a police officer when my mom married him.
My issue with the police doesn't come from anything that they can do much about. I just have a huge problem with the unjust laws that they are tasked to enforce.
Like it or not; you are the jack booted thug who is just following orders. That doesn't mean that I do not like you though.
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I am not a FTP type; I am more of a law and order type of guy and that I can think of I haven't gotten a ticket in 10 + years. My adopted father was also a police officer when my mom married him and I grew up around police officers.Originally posted by Paladin View PostShame on me for answering you, but here goes. If the police were no longer writing tickets, would you still be a FTP type hater? Just trying to see if it is all about citations being written.
I have said many times, I never made it a large part of my police career.
My issue with the police doesn't come from anything that they can do much about. I just have a huge problem with the unjust laws that they are tasked to enforce. Almost none of the laws that I have a problem with have any effect on me, I just have a moral issue with them.
Like it or not; you are the jack booted thug who is just following orders. That doesn't mean that I do not like you though.Last edited by svauto-erotic855; 07-11-2016, 09:37 AM.
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Shame on me for answering you, but here goes. If the police were no longer writing tickets, would you still be a FTP type hater? Just trying to see if it is all about citations being written.Originally posted by svo855 View PostCitizens can see when they are being fleeced by the courts and police. When a municipal court in a city like Plano brings in a consistent $3,000,000 per month in fines (and that is just the ones that they collect) under the guise of public safety it leaves a REALLY bad taste in the mouths of the citizenry at large. How stupid do you think the citizenry at large is and how stupid do police officers have to be to not see what is right in front of their face?
I have said many times, I never made it a large part of my police career.
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Except for extremely rare circumstances individual officers are only targets when they are personally involved in criminal activities and they get killed by their fellow officers who are also up to no good. The badge on your chest and the uniform that you wear is the target, not you.Originally posted by Paladin View Post
This is why I asked why someone would want to kill me, not kill cops.
Welcome back. I missed your post when you decided to exit the old board.
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Please show me where I have said anyone in this thread wants to kill cops. I can't read what I want into peoples responses, just like what you are doing to mine? Come on, seriously?Originally posted by LANTIRN View PostActually it wasn't. This entire thread you have been reading what you want into people's response to your question.
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Yeah, I know this. I was trying to make a point and this thread got derailed by a few.Originally posted by line-em-up View Postx2 You are the face of the corrupt justice system and the one enforcing those laws; sometimes with prejudice and excessive or unnecessary force. Since someone can't fight against the lawmakers, they are going to take it out on the enforcers. These are not my current, personal feelings, but ones I have thought about before when I was having a FTP moment and trying to understand why I felt that way.
When a soldier goes out to battle, he srecognizes the enemy because of his uniform, not the living, breathing father or son inside that uniform. It's nothing personal. The reason someone would want to kill you just because you are a cop is because they have declared war on your uniform.
I wish you and all of your fellow policemen a safe and positive day.
This is why I asked why someone would want to kill me, not kill cops.
I have tried to find the interview I was told about where a young black female supposedly said "what if he killed some of the good cops?" Sad on so many levels.
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Welcome back.Originally posted by Paladin View PostLOL, bite me! I would say its good to be back but I don't lie.
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Citizens can see when they are being fleeced by the courts and police. When a municipal court in a city like Plano brings in a consistent $3,000,000 per month in fines (and that is just the ones that they collect) under the guise of public safety it leaves a REALLY bad taste in the mouths of the citizenry at large. How stupid do you think the citizenry at large is and how stupid do police officers have to be to not see what is right in front of their face?Originally posted by Paladin View PostSee, your response puzzles me. Writing citations is a small part of the police work I know. I have never worked in the traffic division as a cop. I supervised the Traffic Investigation Unit where all DWI's, hit and runs, and vehicle related death investigations were worked by the detectives. But I personally don't write citations and haven't for a long time. And even when I did I wrote them to people who were bad guys (people with criminal history or we suspected of committing crimes) or to people who didn't seem to qualify for a warning.
When we go to community forums the OVERWHELMING majority of the complaints from citizens are about people committing traffic violations (speeding and running stop signs are very common), noise and drinking in parks and public areas, door to door solicitors, and dogs barking. These are things that affect quality of life for the citizens. I think it is very telling that police writing tickets is the only thing you mention about police work.
I am curious, how old are you? I am 51.
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Actually it wasn't. This entire thread you have been reading what you want into people's response to your question.Originally posted by Paladin View PostNope, I never said anyone was a cop killer who commented. I took his initial response as justifying it though. I was pretty clear I think.
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Nope, I never said anyone was a cop killer who commented. I took his initial response as justifying it though. I was pretty clear I think.Originally posted by David View PostSo anyone who comments in this thread about the question you asked is a cop killer?
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