Sooooooo.

[jdgregory84]

Goddammit. Now I won't even be able to walk down the street without stepping on a dead baby!

[Gargamel]

Looking at the details of the bill, I agree it was a bad bill.

But if it was specifically a ban on abortions after 20 weeks (with exceptions of rape and health), I would be for it.

I cannot understand how someone could not figure out if they were prepared to have a child within 5 months.... that's a long fucking time.

[Treasure Chest]

It's not only her child.
I don't understand how you can possibly think you can tell a father "Sorry, IT WAS NEVER YOURS BRO!"

Should I be able to force you into having a vasectomy if I don't want to make babies with you?

[EW]

It's not only her child.
I don't understand how you can possibly think you can tell a father "Sorry, IT WAS NEVER YOURS BRO!"

If a woman does not want to have your baby, find another woman who will. Big whoop.

[bcoop]

It's not only her child.
I don't understand how you can possibly think you can tell a father "Sorry, IT WAS NEVER YOURS BRO!"

Technically, it isn't the father's child. Once you conceive your first child, and carry it for 9 months, you might have a point.

[CexMashean]

That isn't your decision to make. I don't understand how you can possibly think you have any right to tell someone else what is best for them.
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It's not only her child.
I don't understand how you can possibly think you can tell a father "Sorry, IT WAS NEVER YOURS BRO!"

[Baron Von Crowder]

Seriously?



That isn't your decision to make. I don't understand how you can possibly think you have any right to tell someone else what is best for them.




I would rather my tax dollars go towards abortions than a lifetime of welfare.



This and gay marriage are the two points I strongly disagree with Republicans on. Legislating morality has never worked, and is a major waste of time. I wish they would give up these fights, and focus on things that really matter. I will say, I disagree with using abortions as birth control. But, it's not my place to tell women what they can do with their own bodies.

goddamnit Brent, why do we have to agree on shit so often?

[NoClassic]

It would have required these to actually happen with a surgical backup in place in case something goes wrong. Sounds like safety to me. If zero state or federal funds went to these, PP was completely privately funded, there would still be screaming but not as much. No tax dollars should go to anyone who do these proceedures.

The percentage of women who die from the procedure does not warrant the requirements they were calling for. It seems pretty obvious they were just attempting to find a more politically acceptable means of achieving an overall reduction in abortions.

According to the most recent CDC statistics (2008) twelve women out of the 1.21 million who had the procedure died.

[bcoop]

All pro-abortionists have never had one. All who have had one have regretted it sooner or later.

Seriously?

and also don't think that someone who wasn't raped, may die during birth, child found to be genetically deformed in the womb, or no attempt at any type of conception prevention was used should be allowed to have one anyways.

That isn't your decision to make. I don't understand how you can possibly think you have any right to tell someone else what is best for them.

No tax dollars should go to anyone who do these proceedures.

I would rather my tax dollars go towards abortions than a lifetime of welfare.



This and gay marriage are the two points I strongly disagree with Republicans on. Legislating morality has never worked, and is a major waste of time. I wish they would give up these fights, and focus on things that really matter. I will say, I disagree with using abortions as birth control. But, it's not my place to tell women what they can do with their own bodies.

[Treasure Chest]

It would have required these to actually happen with a surgical backup in place in case something goes wrong. Sounds like safety to me. If zero state or federal funds went to these, PP was completely privately funded, there would still be screaming but not as much. No tax dollars should go to anyone who do these proceedures.

No. It would require the clinic to be an ambulatory surgery center.

[Forever_frost]

No. Pass the law where a man can legally force her to undergo an abortion within the legal time frame that she herself can have one. If a woman can have the right to terminate the child of a man, the man should have the EXACT same right to terminate the child of a woman.

Fair and impartial pro-choice.

Stevo

Equal protection under the law. They'd never stand for this

[racrguy]

No. Pass the law where a man can legally force her to undergo an abortion within the legal time frame that she herself can have one. If a woman can have the right to terminate the child of a man, the man should have the EXACT same right to terminate the child of a woman.

Fair and impartial pro-choice.

Stevo

By enabling the man to force a woman to have an abortion you're removing her choice. On the inverse, if the woman has an abortion and the man wants to keep it, he's up a creek as well.

It is impossible for every scenario to be accounted for on this topic.

It would have required these to actually happen with a surgical backup in place in case something goes wrong. Sounds like safety to me. If zero state or federal funds went to these, PP was completely privately funded, there would still be screaming but not as much. No tax dollars should go to anyone who do these proceedures.

It would be cheaper to completely fund PP than it would to pay out current entitlement programs.

You bitch about the government wasting money, but try to shut down the one thing that ACTUALLY saves money.

[Forever_frost]

It would have required these to actually happen with a surgical backup in place in case something goes wrong. Sounds like safety to me. If zero state or federal funds went to these, PP was completely privately funded, there would still be screaming but not as much. No tax dollars should go to anyone who do these proceedures.

[CexMashean]

No. Pass the law where a man can legally force her to undergo an abortion within the legal time frame that she herself can have one. If a woman can have the right to terminate the child of a man, the man should have the EXACT same right to terminate the child of a woman.

Fair and impartial pro-choice.

Stevo

Get that kind of logical equality thinking shit out of here!

[stevo]

He can't force her to have a medical procedure she doesn't want to have. However, he should be able to divorce himself from the situation. For example: She wants the kid, he doesn't, he should be able to give away any rights he may have to the child and not be on the hook for any financial support, but the decision must be made under the same guidelines as an abortion. Which forces his had to be played before the 23rd week, after that point he's stuck with the repercussions.

No. Pass the law where a man can legally force her to undergo an abortion within the legal time frame that she herself can have one. If a woman can have the right to terminate the child of a man, the man should have the EXACT same right to terminate the child of a woman.

Fair and impartial pro-choice.

Stevo