ISIS chop off 21 heads

[Baba Ganoush]

I'm sorry, I got so drunk last night I thought a tube of toothpaste was astronaut food.

[Gasser64]

Well...at least Christians would be made as slaves and pay a tax. Everybody else would be killed.

Hell I didn't think they'd even make it that far. Is this Islam's official position on christians? Just curious how it differs from their position on the jews.

How in the world do these guys just sit there and let these men cut their heads off? I mean to they torture someone first in front of these men to show them the pain they will suffer if they fight?

I'm thinking gun control, that they really need to shrug off. Imagine what would happen when a town with a population of 3000 came down hard on the 60 guys ISIS sent out to rape and pillage the town. You might see some isis guys getting their heads chopped off, but not the townspeople.

Hitler was a devout Roman Catholic, you mouthbreathing dipshit.

Ouch, I hit a nerve with that one, huh? Can't take your sacred ideals being shared by some of the worst mass murderers the world has ever seen, I take it.

Did you even go to history class brah? It would seem that if you did, you certainly didn't pay attention. Before the last few years of his reign, he was a self proclaimed atheist. You're wrong brah. He may have believed in all that occult sh1t but he openly said he didn't believe in one all powerful god.

Now for proof. Tell me what "devout catholic" would say "Honor not the holy father but the Fatherland!!" Its in his manifesto which he claimed is one of his life's greatest achievements.

Where's that devout catholic at brah? You're a fucking idiot lol

[racrguy]

See, I have yet to find Christ saying behead anyone or stone anyone or kill anyone. I'm on my reread through the Bible trying to find it but I welcome someone pointing me to this.

The New Testament: Christ fulfilled the law and thus, we are not under it. We are under grace and thus, if you are a Christian, you believe you are saved by grace and you try not to sin. No beheadings, crucifictions, throwing people from buildings or raping children required.

You aren't reading the whole bible, or are ignoring parts of it.

[Denny]

I must have missed it too. I've browsed through it a few times in my life.

[GhostTX]

Hell I didn't think they'd even make it that far. Is this Islam's official position on christians? Just curious how it differs from their position on the jews.


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Jews don't believe in Jesus (the 2nd prophet), so outright kill them. Christians believe in Jesus, so they're misguided. It's a kill or subjugate route then. And if subjugated, Christians have to pay a tax so that they know they are subjugated. Something to that effect.

[46Tbird]

Any non-Muslim can pay the tax, called the jizya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya

From the point of view of the Muslim rulers, jizya was a material proof of the non-Muslims' acceptance of subjection to the state and its laws. In return, non-Muslim subjects are permitted to practice their faith, to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy, to be entitled to the Muslim state's protection from outside aggression, and to be exempted from military service and from the zakat tax levied upon Muslim citizens.

It's not enforced by modern Islamic countries anymore, but certain sects of Muslims still do. ISIS does.

[lowthreeohz]

We shall pay our jizya in lead.

[Denny]

I pay out jizya all the time... and she takes it all.

[jasone]

Is this a real quote by hitler?


My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.

-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922

[Forever_frost]

You aren't reading the whole bible, or are ignoring parts of it.

I did read the whole thing a few times. Please, starting in Matthew, point out where Christ advocated any of the things you claim he did as Christians are expected to follow Christ's example and are under grace, not the law as the law was fulfilled.

[Baba Ganoush]

Why does a discussion about Muslim extremists always end up down a rabbit hole of debate on how evil Christians were/are?

Fucking liberals. I can't wait for the line to be drawn in the sand.

[Gasser64]

Jews don't believe in Jesus (the 2nd prophet), so outright kill them. Christians believe in Jesus, so they're misguided. It's a kill or subjugate route then. And if subjugated, Christians have to pay a tax so that they know they are subjugated. Something to that effect.

So in other words, they could just tax them and still be in the bounds of their religion. Yet they choose to chop heads

We shall pay our jizya in lead.

Well I'm sure they'd accept precious metals, and some say there is a long forgotten method of turning lead into gold. So here, just stand still and look down the end of this tube! The jizya will come flying out of there really fast!

Why does everything involving muslims eventually lead back to gay jokes?

Why does a discussion about Muslim extremists always end up down a rabbit hole of debate on how evil Christians were/are?

Fucking liberals. I can't wait for the line to be drawn in the sand.

Stupidity is how they roll. Try and pin a few of them down here. They'll just ignore you

[racrguy]

I did read the whole thing a few times. Please, starting in Matthew, point out where Christ advocated any of the things you claim he did as Christians are expected to follow Christ's example and are under grace, not the law as the law was fulfilled.

Matthew 5:18-19, that's Jesus telling you that you have to obey the law, and in biblical terms the law is the OT.

[matts5.0]

they will just go quote the old testament, why dont atheists hate jews as much as Christians? you never see them talk about jews near as much as Christians.

[jasone]

they will just go quote the old testament, why dont atheists hate jews as much as Christians? you never see them talk about jews near as much as Christians.

I really don't think atheists hate christians. And jews keep their jewishness to themselves. They aren't out trying to convert followers.