Senate approves open carry on party-line vote

[Cobraman]

Can you show me one instance where something negative has happened from OC, as far as gun violence is concerned? I'm not talking about vs a cop either, a regular ass Joe getting gunned down for OC.

I view OC the same as I do gay marriage. I'm not going to partake in either, but people should have the option should they choose.

So, my stance has never lead with the deterrence argument. As we've seen, it can go either way.

One of my main problems with OC is that it is going to have the same affect that Open Carry Texas did. Due to complaints, more places are going to ban guns. Also, places like Buffalo Wild Wings that "ban guns on the premises" with incorrect signage are going to be quick to fix signage for the same reason. Places are going to fear OC and start banning guns due to pressure from complaints and customers (AKA Target and others) immediately after the bill is signed, and it will only get worse. This affects the entire community of Law abiding CHL holders who now cannot carry into their favorite places.

It goes like this. Some fuckstick carries open into Buffalo Wild Wings or similar because he isn't given proper notice by the "Guns banned on premises sign." Manager comes over due to complaint or because he notices and asks dude to leave. Dude is an asshole, cops get called, dude gets arrested because he was given verbal notice and suddenly it is on the news and BWW fixes their signage. Confrontations like this give us a terrible reputation just like OC Texas does - we get more awful press and give the anti-gunners more ground for the next anti gun bill. Also, now I can't go eat wings at BWW anymore. and that blows.

If dude just keeps his taurus and serpa concealed we don't have any bad press, nobody is affected, citizens at the restaurant don't see a first hand bad example of an "asshole with a gun" and I can still carry blissfully into buffalo wild wings and all my other favorite places.

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SON OF A BITCH! Fuck this. I ain't posting shit else until I get to a computer. I read this post three times to make sure I didn't fuck up again.

Hahaha

[racrguy]

SON OF A BITCH! Fuck this. I ain't posting shit else until I get to a computer. I read this post three times to make sure I didn't fuck up again.

[Baron Von Crowder]

On my phone and fat fingered it. It's be interesting violence at least.

My Nigga!

[racrguy]

LOL @ "fun violence."

Its like the opposite of boring violence.

On my phone and fat fingered it. It's be interesting violence at least.

[Moose242]

I view OC the same as I do gay marriage. I'm not going to partake in either, but people should have the option should they choose.

This.

[Denny]

All this would have never been an issue if stupid laws weren't put in place to infringe on our rights in the first place. Those laws brought about the fear and uncomfortable feelings towards guns.

[Baron Von Crowder]

LOL @ "fun violence."

Its like the opposite of boring violence.

[Rick Modena]

What he said is not an ad hominem.... An ad hominem is when someone tries to invalidate an argument based on a character flaw of the person that made the argument. For example, if I were to tell you that you don't know what you're talking about because you're 21, THAT'S an ad hom. If I just told you that you're a douche, that's not an ad hom. If you're going to throw out the names of logical fallacies, it'd do you well to learn what they are.

Now that's a BOOSH-A-POTUMUS!

[Nash B.]

LOL @ "fun violence."

[racrguy]

No, but that also doesn't mean the opposite side's reasons are either. It is just my opinion and belief and same with everyone else- trying to have a decent debate. The reason I posted the quotes is because i'm getting labelled dumb and stupid for my thoughts because a lot of people don't respect my opinion for their own reasons. Maybe they will respect our fearless reloading leader cj

Can you show me one instance where something negative has happened from OC, as far as gun violence is concerned? I'm not talking about vs a cop either, a regular ass Joe getting gunned down for OC.

I view OC the same as I do gay marriage. I'm not going to partake in either, but people should have the option should they choose.

[Nash B.]

I wanna see oc pass strictly to take the worry of printing or a shirt riding up away. Most people with cc will continue that way.

Texas Penal Code, Chapter 46 (bolded for emphasis):

Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person in a public place.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u.../htm/PE.46.htm

[Cobraman]

Right. I don't want it outlawed either. That way if I am in a room w/ someone OC'ing they can take one for the team.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Right. I don't want it outlawed either. That way if I am in a room w/ someone OC'ing they can take one for the team.

We shall call them " decoys "

[SS Junk]

Right. I don't want it outlawed either. That way if I am in a room w/ someone OC'ing they can take one for the team.