2013 gt500

[Steve]

To have a rational discussion, you need to be coming from a rational basis with your comments. The new Camaro has outsold the Mustang since it came out and anyone waiting for the minor redesign of the Mustang is not going to change those stats. Like it or not, the style of the Camaro pops much more than the Mustang and people put a high priority on style when buying cars like the Mustang or Camaro. Until Ford totally redesigns the Mustang, the Camaro will continue to outsell it. Performance doesn't matter to the majority of car buyers (at least minor variances in performance). The SS is fast enough for 98% of Camaro buyers. The 2% where it isn't will buy the slightly faster 5.0 or the GT500 or ZL1.

I don't mudsling, I just report facts and my observations. You were wrong to imply the Corvette is not a money maker and I called you out on it. It's that simple. I do agree with your implied assertion that Ford would have a very hard time breaking into the Corvette market with an all new model because it just doesn't have the history or heritage the Corvette has built over the last 60 years. To that end, it probably would be unprofitable for Ford, but that doesn't mean it's not profitable for GM to continue to make the Corvette. If it wasn't, GM wouldn't make them anymore.

I admitted I was incorrect in my information and I apologize for it.


I never said the Corvette didn't make money, in fact I said that Corvette has dominated that corner of the market. Chevy sold a little over 13,000 units with the Corvette last year with Porsche in a distant second place selling over 6,000 units. While Corvette dominates that market, it's a very small market and wouldn't make sense for Ford to R&D a new car to compete with.

[White_lightning]

IF you read back, I wasn't the one that brought up the comparisons of the GT500 to the Vette.

Most Vette guys would rather be mid-life crisis douchebags than minimum wage, max debt high school drop-outs buying Mustangs to try to make themselves feel a little bit better about their crappy lives.

Stereotypes are fun, huh?

im willing to bet 95% of the people preaching about how much better the GT500 is couldnt afford one

[Badass2000GT]

IF you read back, I wasn't the one that brought up the comparisons of the GT500 to the Vette.

Most Vette guys would rather be mid-life crisis douchebags than minimum wage, max debt high school drop-outs buying Mustangs to try to make themselves feel a little bit better about their crappy lives.

Stereotypes are fun, huh?

It's not stereotype when it's the truth. Most guys I've met who drives vettes are douchebags who thinks they are higher up then the avg joe cause they drive a vette. And I'm far from the stereotype you have on mustang owners. The only cool vette drivers I've met are the ones that driver the olders 50-60's vettes. Anything later then that have been douchebags and you are really proving my point.

And you might haven't brought up the comparison but you are carrying it on.

[quikag]

Slowag, if you post your PayPal, I'll send $1, so you can buy a clue. Your weakass comparisons are worse than Steve's.

And although I like the general shape of the new junkymaro, I would not pay half of that for Junky Motors quality.

I don't need your dollar, chief. My comparisons are only in response to the other horrible comparisons being made in this thread.

I'm glad you are blindly brand loyal to Ford. I was only reporting facts on sales figures. I didn't say I PERSONALLY agreed with them, they are just facts. Camaro is outselling the Mustang. Period, end of story.

[White_lightning]

And I was replying to his comparison of the 5.0 to the zr1 back 20 years ago, genius. Both comparison doesn't make any sense what so ever so why post that bullshit. Oh it's cause he is one of those douchbag vette owners and have to defend his precious vette he over paid for.

Thank god for mid life crisis douchebags uh? Plus I thought this thread was about the GT500 not the damn vettes.

lol.. you realise if anything.. a 70k GT500 is WAY more of a Boy racer turned mid lift chrisis Douche than a vette.. considering you can get into a base c6 coupe for 43ish K brand new.. ..just sayin...

[White_lightning]

And I was replying to his comparison of the 5.0 to the zr1 back 20 years ago, genius. Both comparison doesn't make any sense what so ever so why post that bullshit. Oh it's cause he is one of those douchbag vette owners and have to defend his precious vette he over paid for.

Since you are comparing a "modded" KB 5.0 mustang to a Stock vette.. i will compare my modded vette to a Stock mustang
i have bout 60k in my 2008 C6 ( i bought it 1 year old) .. Granted.. its built for Mile style events or air strip runs..

i want to see a stock 2013 GT 500.. or FGT stay with me

the whole point of this argument seemed to be STOCK VS STOCK.. because otherwise everyone in this thread with anything but an 88 Fox coupe is an idiot for spending Soooooo much money on a car that you could make a fox coupe beat for 1/20th the price

[quikag]

Thank god for mid life crisis douchebags uh? Plus I thought this thread was about the GT500 not the damn vettes.

IF you read back, I wasn't the one that brought up the comparisons of the GT500 to the Vette.

Most Vette guys would rather be mid-life crisis douchebags than minimum wage, max debt high school drop-outs buying Mustangs to try to make themselves feel a little bit better about their crappy lives.

Stereotypes are fun, huh?

[Chas_svo]

Slowag, if you post your PayPal, I'll send $1, so you can buy a clue. Your weakass comparisons are worse than Steve's.

And although I like the general shape of the new junkymaro, I would not pay half of that for Junky Motors quality.

[quikag]

Hey go fuck yourself. I'm typing this shit on an I-phone. And all the zr1's I've seen at dealerships has had a stickier of 125k. I had a chance to get mine for 24k but I went with 1.9% interest rate instead. So yes you can get a 5.0 for 24k which is 100k LESS then a zr1. But I understand you own a vette so you're one of those vette douchebag guys and since ford is came out with the GT500 all you vette owners have been bitching pissing moaning that you waste your money on a slow ass car.

Ruh Roh. I didn't mean to hit your sensitive happy place. So, I guess you think you can get Mustangs at big discounts, but the ZR1 still sells at sticker? Well, you're wrong.

Mustang owners have at least as many stereotypes as Corvette owners, so I won't go there because it's childish and mostly wrong.

I'm so sad I got a Corvette when I could have waited for the new wundercar from Ford. Yes, that is why I lurk here. I'm trying to justify my poor purchase decisions.

[Badass2000GT]

I don't mudsling, I just report facts and my observations. You were wrong to imply the Corvette is not a money maker and I called you out on it. It's that simple. I do agree with your implied assertion that Ford would have a very hard time breaking into the Corvette market with an all new model because it just doesn't have the history or heritage the Corvette has built over the last 60 years. To that end, it probably wouldn't be unprofitable for Ford, but that doesn't mean it's not profitable for GM to continue to make the Corvette. If it wasn't, GM wouldn't make them anymore.

Thank god for mid life crisis douchebags uh? Plus I thought this thread was about the GT500 not the damn vettes.

[quikag]

You're assuming alot of things to put words into what I said to suit your arguement. If you're looking to get into a mudslinging contest, I'm not interested. If you want to have a rational discussion, I'm good with that.

After some quick looking, I was incorrect in my information. Camaro is slightly outselling Mustang by a 3% margin. It seems the new design being announced slowed Mustang sales for so many waiting for the 2013 redesign.

To have a rational discussion, you need to be coming from a rational basis with your comments. The new Camaro has outsold the Mustang since it came out and anyone waiting for the minor redesign of the Mustang is not going to change those stats. Like it or not, the style of the Camaro pops much more than the Mustang and people put a high priority on style when buying cars like the Mustang or Camaro. Until Ford totally redesigns the Mustang, the Camaro will continue to outsell it. Performance doesn't matter to the majority of car buyers (at least minor variances in performance). The SS is fast enough for 98% of Camaro buyers. The 2% where it isn't will buy the slightly faster 5.0 or the GT500 or ZL1.

I don't mudsling, I just report facts and my observations. You were wrong to imply the Corvette is not a money maker and I called you out on it. It's that simple. I do agree with your implied assertion that Ford would have a very hard time breaking into the Corvette market with an all new model because it just doesn't have the history or heritage the Corvette has built over the last 60 years. To that end, it probably would be unprofitable for Ford, but that doesn't mean it's not profitable for GM to continue to make the Corvette. If it wasn't, GM wouldn't make them anymore.

[Badass2000GT]

You're assuming alot of things to put words into what I said to suit your arguement. If you're looking to get into a mudslinging contest, I'm not interested. If you want to have a rational discussion, I'm good with that.

After some quick looking, I was incorrect in my information. Camaro is slightly outselling Mustang by a 3% margin. It seems the new design being announced slowed Mustang sales for so many waiting for the 2015 redesign.

Fixed for ya.

[Steve]

I hate to beat a dead horse, but you have to forgive Steve, he probably saw something on tv, misinterpreted it, and wanted to seem smart on the internet, but he failed miserably.......again.

-MattB (drunken cockjockey)

Oh look who is internet stalking again. Why are you so concerned with what I do/say? Just the fuck up and mind your own business.

[Badass2000GT]

He was replying to the ford gt comment, Einstein.

And I was replying to his comparison of the 5.0 to the zr1 back 20 years ago, genius. Both comparison doesn't make any sense what so ever so why post that bullshit. Oh it's cause he is one of those douchbag vette owners and have to defend his precious vette he over paid for.

[Badass2000GT]

100k least? Nice grammar. Since you can get a new ZR1 for $100k, then your 5.0 with the KB blower was free then?

I'm sure a free 5.0 with KB blower and $10k worth of suspension will hold up great to a sustained road course session against a bone stock ZR1.

Those ZR1 owners are such idiots when they could have saved $100k getting a 5.0 with some mods that could outperform it. I wonder where those idiots got the money to buy a ZR1 in the first place. I'll go over to corvetteforum and try to find out and report back.

Hey go fuck yourself. I'm typing this shit on an I-phone. And all the zr1's I've seen at dealerships has had a stickier of 125k. I had a chance to get mine for 24k but I went with 1.9% interest rate instead. So yes you can get a 5.0 for 24k which is 100k LESS then a zr1. But I understand you own a vette so you're one of those vette douchebag guys and since ford is came out with the GT500 all you vette owners have been bitching pissing moaning that you waste your money on a slow ass car.