Netflix Original: Bill Nye Saves The Earth

[naynay]

mods should reconsider who needs to be banned. 1 is right there ^.

[The King]

Luckily we got God out of the equation.... Well except that politician that recently said we don't need to worry about climate change cause God will fix it.

Consider this reply to confirm that God is not out of the equation.

Hopefully crazie doesn't ban me for posting in my own thread that has gained the most traction this place has seen in recent months.

LOL, rather full of our little self, aren't we?

[naynay]

found this to substantiate what i was saying about the REAL reason we pulled out.

http://priceofoil.org/2017/01/11/rex-tillerson-denies-oil-gas-subsidies-exist-while-company-profits-from-them/

Today Rex Tillerson, under oath, denied the existence of fossil fuel subsidies. This is dangerously incorrect. In fact, the Oil & Gas Industry receives more than $17 Billion in Subsidies per year, and according to our new analysis ExxonMobil likely gets as much as $1 billion of that.

Former ExxonMobil CEO, Rex Tillerson, testified in front of the Senate Foreign Relations committee and may be about to head the State Department – and it’s not looking good for the climate.

Under Tillerson and his predecessors, Exxon knew that climate change was happening yet spun a massive disinformation campaign to sow doubt about climate science, and spent hundreds of millions buying influence in Washington to block progress on climate pollution. Today Tillerson was at it again, testifying that the science on climate change, and the impact it might have on the world and our country, is still fuzzy.

But he also upheld another proud oil and gas industry tradition: denying that the oil and gas industry receives subsidies. There’s a pattern here. Whenever the oil industry faces a problem that truly threatens their business model, they deny it exists.

During the Senate hearing, Sen. Shaheen (D-NH), asked Tillerson if he would continue pursuing the G20 pledge, spearheaded by the United States, to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies. He replied, “I’m not aware of anything the fossil fuel industry gets that I would characterize as a subsidy.”

again, trump doesnt know what he is doing. this was a tillerson decision, and only people working in the oil industry would truly support it.

not sure if we have any coal miners on the board, but if we do, i'm glad they will be getting their jobs back, and i hope they dont consider your black lung problem a pre existing condition

http://www.npr.org/series/156453033/black-lung-returns-to-coal-country

[YALE]

I would love it if we would stop subsidizing coal. Stopping that on a dime in the US and Australia would probably lead to a 30% drop in overall air pollution globally.

[DON SVO]

Matt, if I may, it seems like you are leaving the trump factor out of the equation. He did this based on tillerson's advice. Tillerson's who has amassed hundreds of millions from oil.

Progressive thinkers are thinking about the long run.

We all know nothing is going to change tomorrow, but once you have a kid, it's worth a little more to invest in their future. If I didn't. Know your ties to the oil industry, but now it just seems that you and the vette guy are grandstanding on two opposite ends of the spectrum, in a post that really had nothing to do with either. Luckily we got God out of the equation.... Well except that politician that recently said we don't need to worry about climate change cause God will fix it.

Hopefully crazie doesn't ban me for posting in my own thread that has gained the most traction this place has seen in recent months. But it's ok to have differing opinions. Accept that and move past it.

There's nothing wrong whatsoever with what Matt said. Mschmoyer (for whatever reason) glosses over the reality that, without massive government funding, "green" energy would have never happened.

My concern isn't whether green energy will have a real future (it should) or whether old-school hydrocarbon oil is here to stay due to financial logic. My concern is simple: everyone wants the government to stay out of energy. It makes sense. However, when you pin your tail on the donkey that's available only because the government is throwing enough money at it to make sense... Suddenly we're back at square one. Big Gov has their hand up the oil industries ass. If we let the government fund "green" energy guess what? We're right back where we started just with a prettier name.

I think what trump has done is genius. If we force companies to self-subsidize, it can limit government involvement and assist with decreasing their influence. I could go way deeper into this but as long as taxpayers foot the bill, Trump is right.

[SS Junk]

We all know nothing is going to change tomorrow, but once you have a kid, it's worth a little more to invest in their future.

LOL at you lecturing anyone especially when you've admitted you aren't doing jack shit. "Think of the chilllllllldren!11"

[Craizie]

Matt, if I may, it seems like you are leaving the trump factor out of the equation. He did this based on tillerson's advice. Tillerson's who has amassed hundreds of millions from oil.

Progressive thinkers are thinking about the long run.

We all know nothing is going to change tomorrow, but once you have a kid, it's worth a little more to invest in their future. If I didn't. Know your ties to the oil industry, but now it just seems that you and the vette guy are grandstanding on two opposite ends of the spectrum, in a post that really had nothing to do with either. Luckily we got God out of the equation.... Well except that politician that recently said we don't need to worry about climate change cause God will fix it.

Hopefully Craizie doesn't ban me for posting in my own thread that has gained the most traction this place has seen in recent months. But it's ok to have differing opinions. Accept that and move past it.

FTFY.

Also, I can't ban you. I was just warning you that there was rabble in the VIP section that you should be banned.... again.

I voted to free the Nay, remember?

[naynay]

Matt, if I may, it seems like you are leaving the trump factor out of the equation. He did this based on tillerson's advice. Tillerson's who has amassed hundreds of millions from oil.

Progressive thinkers are thinking about the long run.

We all know nothing is going to change tomorrow, but once you have a kid, it's worth a little more to invest in their future. If I didn't. Know your ties to the oil industry, but now it just seems that you and the vette guy are grandstanding on two opposite ends of the spectrum, in a post that really had nothing to do with either. Luckily we got God out of the equation.... Well except that politician that recently said we don't need to worry about climate change cause God will fix it.

Hopefully crazie doesn't ban me for posting in my own thread that has gained the most traction this place has seen in recent months. But it's ok to have differing opinions. Accept that and move past it.

[Strychnine]

thus him being a fan of distancing ourselves from clean renewable energy. Y

I don't know the difference, so would this fall under #fakenews or #alternativefacts ?

[no one ever]

I am returning all of the solar panels I bought because we are not in the Paris Accord.

Also fuck recycling now.

[SS Junk]

[naynay]

At par with everything other argument, pointless and trying to deflect the conversation.

Do what now?

[no4njnk]

At par with everything other argument, pointless and trying to deflect the conversation.

[naynay]

We do realize that. He's made a living off of non renewable energy in the oil industry, thus him being a fan of distancing ourselves from clean renewable energy. Y

[no4njnk]

So why quit instead of negotiate it for the better? (A. because Trump is incapable of talking Scientific issues and B. He doesn't care)

They were, Tillerson was negotiating to stay in it.

Bottom line it was a bad deal that should have never been signed. Unless there is accountability and equal participation (economical and environmental) then it is not worth signing. Everyone is getting all emotional since it is a deal about the "environment", take emotions out of it and actually read the deal.

You do realize the US has already given over $1 billion to the pact...for what? The plan was for everyone to raise $100 billion by 2020 to help save the environment...BS.

If you haven't noticed Strychnine is a pretty smart dude, especially about energy. You may want to at least listen to him about that part