Thumbs up to familygunfun for UTAH Non-Resident CHL

[LS1Goat]

Glad you enjoyed the class, Don. I liked Brad's attitude and teaching style. Make sure when you send in all your paper work to Utah BCI that you pay for and get return receipt/delivery confirmation. And mail it out on a Monday. They are only open Monday - Thursday. If it arrives on a Friday or Saturday, it will get sent back to Salt Lake Post Office and sit there for a while until they decide to make another redelivery attempt. Just a tip from your Uncle Tim........

And I don't know if Brad talked about it in your class, but it's highly unlikely we'll lose our reciprocity agreement with Utah anytime soon. We can carry in like 34 states only with a couple of those being unilateral where you have to be a Utah resident. It's cheaper, quicker, and as you now know very informative, covers Texas CHL info, and only cost $10 to renew in 5 years with no range time. As long as the current laws stay in place. UTAH Non-Resident CHL will continue to be significantly more economical, practical, and convenient than Texas CHL.

[KBScobravert]

Don I took my TX CHL Saturday and I am still gonna try and take the Utah in a few months just for the learning. I agree the TX test was very easy. And truth be told, our TX class could have been condensed to 4 hours very easily.

[DON SVO]

I just took the Utah with my sister at Familygunfun. The Utah license has two more reciprocity states (34 to 32, IIRC) and is just as valid.

At the end of the course we went over a copy of the Texas CHL written exam and I was blown away at how simple it was. We learned more than paper training, slot of the class was dedicated to making sure you have situational awareness, and utilize all outs before you pull the trigger.

Might the reciprocity end? Maybe. Perry got re-elected and our legislature is still very pro-gun... Not soon IMO.

From talking with several Texas CHL holders, I'd rather do the Utah course.

[03trubluGT]

anyone have recommendations for a Texas CHL course then?

When I am home on R&R my attention span is VERY limited. I would not do well sitting for 8hrs so they better be able to captivate my attention. Not that I am ADD or anything it is just that I have so much I want to do and so little time to do it in.

https://Www.txchl.com

[YALE]

Matt I see no need for you to leave the topic unless the OP does but then again it is an open forum. I would be interested in hearing if there is any open cases pertaining to out of state CHL and reciprocity in Texas. Over zealous officer or DA is the only that worries me. If it was just me I know I could handle it but I do not want to put my wife in a position she can't deal with. I am just glad I talked her into the course to begin with.

They're all hot and bothered up here about out of state non-resident CHL's. The two popular up here are Florida and Utah, and they're probably going to legislate those away pretty soon. It's not a big deal, though, because the LTCF here is $40, and there's not even a class or a test. It's just a background check.

[David]

That's a pretty baseless assumption considering there are laws in place recognizing the Utah CHL as being valid in the state of Texas. And I personally gained quite a bit from this class. I was actually humbled at the end of the class realizing just how much I really didn't know (but thought I did) about CHL going in.

However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

You gain the exact amount of bullshit you do from a Texas chl. So this Utah thing is a joke.

If there were more carry option in other states that don't recognize Texas or makes it easier to carry in one state because of a Utah chl over Texas or something along those lines, I'd understand it.

[LS1Goat]

The fact of the matter is you gain shit from obtaining one.

That's a pretty baseless assumption considering there are laws in place recognizing the Utah CHL as being valid in the state of Texas. And I personally gained quite a bit from this class. I was actually humbled at the end of the class realizing just how much I really didn't know (but thought I did) about CHL going in.

However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[David]

The fact of the matter is you gain shit from obtaining one.

[KBScobravert]

This is a very compelling argument for getting the Utah Non-Resident CHL, but in the minute chance you have to display or even use the weapon, are you willing to risk some type of prejudice by the responding officer(s) or an Assistant DA that doesn't like the fact that you went out and got a CHL via circumventing the Texas CHL?

Just a point I wanted to make before bowing out of this conversation.

If this had been around years ago, it might have been a viable option had I needed one.

When I have time, I will do some research on this and make a call to see if there are any ongoing cases or case law on this subject.

Matt I see no need for you to leave the topic unless the OP does but then again it is an open forum. I would be interested in hearing if there is any open cases pertaining to out of state CHL and reciprocity in Texas. Over zealous officer or DA is the only that worries me. If it was just me I know I could handle it but I do not want to put my wife in a position she can't deal with. I am just glad I talked her into the course to begin with.

[03trubluGT]

Texas CHL is a 10 hour class and cost more money. The Non-Resident Utah CHL class that Brad teaches is very educational, engaging, and covers everything required to obtain your CHL. Don't let people scare you out the UTAH Non-Resident CHL program. It's 100% legal and was signed in to law under mutual reciprocity agreements that are signed by Governor Rick Perry, Utah Commissioner of Public Safety, and the Texas Attorney General. You'll see those signatures in the .pdf I posted below from the Texas DPS site.

People can decry and criticize this (easier) route to obtaining a CHL to they are blue in the face. The fact of the matter, it's legal and valid under the letter of the law. End of story. You still have to meet all the qualifications and automatic disqualifications under the law on your course completion form signed by the Instructor. The FBI gets your fingerprints. And you have to pass a FBI background check. And gun safety is a part of the class. Don't let the no range time dissuade you and lull you into thinking this is an unsound course curriculum. It's debatable and everyone has their opinion regarding UTAH Non-Resident CHL. If you don't feel comfortable with it, then don't take it. Take a Texas CHL course. Either way is fine. And both are legal under reciprocity.

Any questions or concerns you might have can be put to rest if you read the Utah Agreement posted on the Texas DPS website. Here http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...hagreement.pdf

And when you get your Utah Non-Resident CHL and reside in Texas(such as in my case). Guess what, you are a lawful Concealed Handgun Carrier exercising your 2nd Amendment rights.

- Tim

This is a very compelling argument for getting the Utah Non-Resident CHL, but in the minute chance you have to display or even use the weapon, are you willing to risk some type of prejudice by the responding officer(s) or an Assistant DA that doesn't like the fact that you went out and got a CHL via circumventing the Texas CHL?

Just a point I wanted to make before bowing out of this conversation.

If this had been around years ago, it might have been a viable option had I needed one.

When I have time, I will do some research on this and make a call to see if there are any ongoing cases or case law on this subject.

[Mike K]

The non-resident Utah CHL would be a pretty convenient option for you. I wish I would have gone that route simply because of the lack of time I typically have on vacation. As a matter of fact, I took the Texas CHL class at Bullet Trap in Plano, but had to qualify on my next vacation a year later because I ran out of time.

[LS1Goat]

anyone have recommendations for a Texas CHL course then?

When I am home on R&R my attention span is VERY limited. I would not do well sitting for 8hrs so they better be able to captivate my attention. Not that I am ADD or anything it is just that I have so much I want to do and so little time to do it in.

Texas CHL is a 10 hour class and cost more money. The Non-Resident Utah CHL class that Brad teaches is very educational, engaging, and covers everything required to obtain your CHL. Don't let people scare you out the UTAH Non-Resident CHL program. It's 100% legal and was signed in to law under mutual reciprocity agreements that are signed by Governor Rick Perry, Utah Commissioner of Public Safety, and the Texas Attorney General. You'll see those signatures in the .pdf I posted below from the Texas DPS site.

People can decry and criticize this (easier) route to obtaining a CHL to they are blue in the face. The fact of the matter, it's legal and valid under the letter of the law. End of story. You still have to meet all the qualifications and automatic disqualifications under the law on your course completion form signed by the Instructor. The FBI gets your fingerprints. And you have to pass a FBI background check. And gun safety is a part of the class. Don't let the no range time dissuade you and lull you into thinking this is an unsound course curriculum. It's debatable and everyone has their opinion regarding UTAH Non-Resident CHL. If you don't feel comfortable with it, then don't take it. Take a Texas CHL course. Either way is fine. And both are legal under reciprocity.

Any questions or concerns you might have can be put to rest if you read the Utah Agreement posted on the Texas DPS website. Here http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...hagreement.pdf

And when you get your Utah Non-Resident CHL and reside in Texas(such as in my case). Guess what, you are a lawful Concealed Handgun Carrier exercising your 2nd Amendment rights.

- Tim

[Mike K]

Where do you live? I assume you would prefer something local.

[KBScobravert]

anyone have recommendations for a Texas CHL course then?

When I am home on R&R my attention span is VERY limited. I would not do well sitting for 8hrs so they better be able to captivate my attention. Not that I am ADD or anything it is just that I have so much I want to do and so little time to do it in.

[03trubluGT]

Do you have any Idea what the second amendment states?

I don't give a crap about any lower courts, or laws that subvert the constitution.

Ignorance may be bliss, but in this case it is just plain stupid.