Thumbs up to familygunfun for UTAH Non-Resident CHL

[Grimpala]

So whats the benefit of a Utah chl over a Texas one? Besides saving some time and a few dollars?

Time and money is the benefit.

[David]

So whats the benefit of a Utah chl over a Texas one? Besides saving some time and a few dollars?

[KBScobravert]

Well that would be too easy.

A search for the flyer here on base for the certified instructor yeilded negative results.

[LS1Goat]

Do you have a link to his course? I am wanting to go through the steps to get my CHL this trip home. Anyone up to take a course together? I am going to try and talk my wife into it also.

I can actually take the UTAH CHL here in Afghanistan on Bagram there is a certified instructor here but I would like my wife to go through the class with me.

http://www.familygunfun.com/

[KBScobravert]

Do you have a link to his course? I am wanting to go through the steps to get my CHL this trip home. Anyone up to take a course together? I am going to try and talk my wife into it also.

I can actually take the UTAH CHL here in Afghanistan on Bagram there is a certified instructor here but I would like my wife to go through the class with me.

[03trubluGT]

Rick Perry signed the reciprocity agreement into law. And he just got re-elected. As for people not having proficiency, I've been shooting/hunting handling firearms since I was 12. Same goes for the others in my class based on our discussion.

That does not mean that there is not some legislator preparing a bill to remove the loophole, or that Rick Perry specifically likes this either.

I'd be willing to bet that the reciprocity law was passed as a whole, and not a Utah bill passed specifically.

[LS1Goat]

The concealed carry shooting portion is a joke.

Yup, and Brad discusses the reasoning behind that in class in regards to the Texas CHL class range time.

[LS1Goat]

I also took Brad's class early in the year. I did it for the time factor. We actually went over the TX CHL test when we were finished. There wasn't anything on it we hadn't covered. I can and have shot my whole life, so not shooting wasn't a big deal. I did learn several things from his class that I wouldn't have thought about. For the record NRA members have access to council. I've given my Utah non res license to several leo's during traffic stops and have had no probs.

He has an excellent curriculum and a fun and engaging teaching style. Covers Texas and Utah CHL laws in detail. Answers any and all question to your satisfaction. And also provides information that exceeds the scope of the curriculum. And even though there is not range time. You have to demonstrate a certain level of proficiency in firearm safety.

This guys knows his stuff. Background in law enforcement and also will offer firearms training for anyone who doesn't have experience or would just like a refresher.

Discusses a lot of different scenarios and how to handle confrontation. Stop, control, and neutralize. That's the main objective. And he emphasizes the dangers and potential liability of third party intervention. Not leaving your secure tactical area. This guy's class is not for those who are trigger happy zealots. He doesn't support aggressive tactics, especially involving robbery. Even during the nighttime. He's has a very pragmatic point of view regarding CHL. And how you can use certain techniques to diffuse a situation without having to pull the trigger. The most interesting part of the class is how to handle 911 calls. And what to do and what not to do after you are Mirandized.

[LS1Goat]

So meaning you don't have to take the Texas CHL test but you can still carry in Texas?

Yep, can legally carry in 34 states, Texas included under reciprocity. AND the renewal fee after 5 years is only $10 without having to take any more classes.

[LS1Goat]

Pretty cool, basically $165 and no shooting test and you can carry...

Yep, $100 for class. And $65.25 to process paperwork. i.e. FBI background check, Finger printing, DL copy, Passport photo, and course completion signed by instructor. And you get your license pretty quick. 2 months or less.

[LS1Goat]

I'm really not liking this way around the Texas CHL.

No range time? The thought of having people out there with a license that did not have to demonstrate ANY kind of proficiency scares me.

This sounds like a way to skirt the Texas CHL, and I would think that the Texas Legislature is working on a way to close that loophole. When it does, everyone who has spent money on this out of state CHL is going to have a worthless document.

I have yet to see any case law on this, and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the test case. You might win, but you'd be tens of thousands of dollars in the hole.

For the record, I support concealed carry, I think everyone that is eligible should be able to carry. An armed society is a polite society, and I wished more bad guys would meet the business end of a gun for their crimes. I just don't think this is the way to defeat the system that has been put in place.

Rick Perry signed the reciprocity agreement into law. And he just got re-elected. As for people not having proficiency, I've been shooting/hunting handling firearms since I was 12. Same goes for the others in my class based on our discussion.

[jwalk]

I would say you need to stop getting stopped by leo's

[FullSizeMike]

I also took Brad's class early in the year. I did it for the time factor. We actually went over the TX CHL test when we were finished. There wasn't anything on it we hadn't covered. I can and have shot my whole life, so not shooting wasn't a big deal. I did learn several things from his class that I wouldn't have thought about. For the record NRA members have access to council. I've given my Utah non res license to several leo's during traffic stops and have had no probs.

[silverhatch]

So meaning you don't have to take the Texas CHL test but you can still carry in Texas?

Correct.

I have a Texas and a Utah chl.

[motoman]

So meaning you don't have to take the Texas CHL test but you can still carry in Texas?