Lucky us! 4th amendment just got weaker.

[Broncojohnny]

So lets say his grandma is chilaxing in her living room watching her Wheel of Fortune eating her prunes and the cops bust into the wrong house. Granny falls over and dies from a heartache from the whole situation.

Were they still justified going in?

I can see alot of lawsuits coming out of this.

There was a case in Atlanta where grandma shot at the police when they served a search warrant, obtained under false pretenses. They shot and killed her. Later some of the cops involved in that situation were sent to prison. Yet if you ask some of the people on this message board, the police were still perfectly within their right to break down her door and she should have been shot and killed.

[SlowLX]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,326885,00.html

LOS ANGELES — Two former police officers were convicted in federal court Wednesday of participating in a robbery ring that disguised home invasions as drug raids.

William Ferguson, 35, a former Los Angeles policeman, and his 33-year-old brother, Joseph, a former Long Beach officer, were convicted of charges including conspiracy to deprive people of their rights under color of law and conspiracy to possess marijuana and cocaine.

William Ferguson was found guilty of 13 charges and acquitted of five counts. His brother was convicted of three counts. Jurors deadlocked on 18 other counts.

Defense attorneys said they would appeal. Prosecutors did not immediately say whether they would retry the brothers on the deadlocked charges. Sentencing was set for April.

Prosecutors said the ring conducted about 40 robberies from 1999 to 2001 in which members would steal cash and drugs, then sell them on the street.

Fifteen people, including the ring's suspected leader, former LAPD Officer Ruben Palomares, have pleaded guilty in the investigation. Palomares worked with William Ferguson in the LAPD's scandal-tinged Rampart Division until both were fired in 2003. He testified against the brothers at trial.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...#ixzz1MiPAjHjy

[SlowLX]

So lets say his grandma is chilaxing in her living room watching her Wheel of Fortune eating her prunes and the cops bust into the wrong house. Granny falls over and dies from a heartache from the whole situation.

Were they still justified going in?

I can see alot of lawsuits coming out of this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston

[mstng86]

OBV! they heard her destroying prunes.

haha, have you ever listened to an old person eat?

[Broncojohnny]

Putting my "faith in the infallibility of your fellow cops" and maitaining a wide berth from criminal activity are two vastly different things. I don't put anything past anyone, but I don't give anyone a reason to suspect that I'm doing something wrong, or have something to hide.

They are two vastly different things, with one you hope that some idiot doesn't get a wild hair up their ass based on perception, with the other you don't have to worry about it because perception isn't good enough.

[Ruffdaddy]

And?

And it totally disproved your previous points. How are you not seeing how wrong you are? You've gone full retard...err cop.

aren't you the same cop that determine from a pic of a kid at a party with a redbull that he was drinking alcohol because they're sometimes mixed? And the same guy bossing people around at the gym because you have an authority complex?

[Couver]

And?

Obtuse

1a : not pointed or acute : blunt b (1) of an angle : exceeding 90 degrees but less than 180 degrees (2) : having an obtuse angle <an obtuse triangle> — see triangle illustration c of a leaf : rounded at the free end
2a : lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect : insensitive, stupid b : difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression
— ob·tuse·ly adverb
— ob·tuse·ness noun

[momo]

So lets say his grandma is chilaxing in her living room watching her Wheel of Fortune eating her prunes and the cops bust into the wrong house. Granny falls over and dies from a heartache from the whole situation.

Were they still justified going in?

I can see alot of lawsuits coming out of this.

OBV! they heard her destroying prunes.

[bcoop]

And?

There it is! Lmfao!

[mstng86]

Drama FTW.

So lets say his grandma is chilaxing in her living room watching her Wheel of Fortune eating her prunes and the cops bust into the wrong house. Granny falls over and dies from a heartache from the whole situation.

Were they still justified going in?

I can see alot of lawsuits coming out of this.

[03trubluGT]

My parents neighbor didn't do dope and was about as upright as they come, I guess you statistics don't apply to him?

And?

[03trubluGT]

Everything you said (except for the last sentence) is true. Of course the odds are greater that you would get into a bike wreck. That still doesn't make it any better if a cop bust down my door. You don't have to be doing dope or anything illegal to have them bust in. With the new law, my grandma could be sitting there watching TV and they could bust her door in and beat her ass and there wouldn't a damn thing she could do about it. I don't want to increase that risk.

Drama FTW.

[03trubluGT]

Doesn't matter if you do or don't. What matters is if the Mansfield PD decides that you do. Thus the point of this thread. You can put your faith in the infallibility of your fellow cops, that is your decision. I like to put mine in the letter of the law that governs their actions.

Putting my "faith in the infallibility of your fellow cops" and maitaining a wide berth from criminal activity are two vastly different things. I don't put anything past anyone, but I don't give anyone a reason to suspect that I'm doing something wrong, or have something to hide.

[bcoop]

its the blind allegiance.

god bless.

If you had any hair, it would be smoldering right now from the use of a big word.

[ELVIS]

Wow. Matt, I can't tell if it's ignorance, or your blind allegiance to LEO that's shining through. One thing is for sure, your comments in here rank right up there with some of the most retarded comments I've read on this board.

its the blind allegiance.

god bless.