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  • SlowLX
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    Originally posted by Denny View Post
    Wanna hear the story about a small group of settlers (with far less weaponry) that took on the world's largest army and kicked their ass back to England?
    You want to know some real reasons why America won it's independence? How about the fact that the local populace in Britain never really cared for the war in the first place? Or the fact that it took MONTHS to resupply their army not hours like it would take today. Or how about the only real reason we won was because of French aid and assistance? Or how about the differences in time frame that it takes to take a ragtag militia and turn them into an effective national army circa the 18th century compared to what would happen now? Especially with foreign aid and military advisers.

    Now, do you wanna hear a little story about the southern fight for independence? Where the majority of the nations military men of the time deserted and revolted, yet they still got the shit kicked out of them because they had no way of sustaining their war or foreign support?

    There is no way without at least partial assistance from major US military units or all out foreign assistance a revolution against the US military would last. I personally view the national guard with contempt the majority of the time due to their piss poor training when compared to the rest of the Army and Marines and I would still put faith in them to put down a 2nd American revolution by themselves if their opposition had no military support or leadership.

    Let's use this board as a small example for instance: out of all the wanna be secessionists and vote from the rooftop guys that post on here and can be assumed to share similar view to others across the nation, how many of you have substantial military experience? 25%? That's with high estimates and I'm willing to wager that out of all of the vets on this board no one has led a unit larger than 30-40 men. That's being generous assuming some of the secessionists posters are just quite about their military service. I would trust a platoon of Iowa guardsmen equipped with antiquated weapons vs a company of the typical DFWMustangs secessionists with every modern weapon possible.

    It takes more than desire to win a war, especially if the enemy is sufficiently motivated, such as preserving the union.

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  • sc281
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    Originally posted by The King View Post
    H*ll no, but they are nonetheless the so-called "majority". What would give a true revolutionary minority the authority to dictate through force what the majority should think and do? Then the revolutionaries become the very thing they're opposed to.
    The basis of the Constitutional Republic we are founded on was built to protect the rights of the individual/minority from being oppressed by the majority. e.g. The majority taking the wealth from the minority through the "Democratic" process circa !900-2011 A.D.


    Originally posted by Denny View Post
    Wanna hear the story about a small group of settlers (with far less weaponry) that took on the world's largest army and kicked their ass back to England?
    Yes, please. It isn't told nearly enough these days.

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  • 03trubluGT
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    Originally posted by Jimbo View Post
    Supporting personal freedom is a kneejerk?
    The chances of anyone breaking in my house may be slim, but I would still want the law to support the homeowner in every possible situation unless there is a lawful reason for the intrusion.
    Instead of bitching about the SC, most of the direction has been on how this is going to be abused by the JBT dumb ass cops.

    Coming on here and cop bashing isn't going to change a thing. People need to get involved with established remedies.

    I'm with you on this:

    I would still want the law to support the homeowner in every possible situation unless there is a lawful reason for the intrusion

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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by SlowLX View Post
    You people are still failing to realize the military is NOT going to abandon the federal government without good cause. The lower enlisted ranks who would be the easiest to sway don't have enough leaderships, weapons, supplies, or ability to carry on a revolution; officers are not going to desert the Federal government en mass without SERIOUS fuck ups by the government or by a large change in allegiances by the flag grade officers who also are not going to abandon the Federal government solely on the charge or slowly eroding civil liberties.
    Wanna hear the story about a small group of settlers (with far less weaponry) that took on the world's largest army and kicked their ass back to England?

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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by The King View Post
    Education for one. Consider that mass support for a revolution just isn't there. Remember that the majority of voters gave us Obama....do you really think they would join any revolutionary uprising that required effort or risk on their part.
    Education?! You can scream it out from the top of your lungs with all the evidence to show how the current status quo is what is bringing us down and most STILL won't veer from the course.

    Why should the minority that want what is right, have to suffer at the hands of the majority that is ignorant to our demise?

    Fuck a bunch of that shit. Physical force yeilds results.

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  • The King
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    Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
    Sucking the dicks of democracy - The Obama Army.
    That there's quote-worthy

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  • 78X
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    Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View Post
    Where do you turn when the Supreme Court is wrong???
    Night court

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  • Jimbo
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    Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
    Really?

    I'm pretty certain the chances of police kicking in my door are less than me getting hit by lightning. But then I don't do dope, nor do I allow anyone into my home that does.

    But, if I had a bike, you can be damn sure I'd wear a helmet because I've cleaned up enough motorcycle wrecks that weren't the bike rider's fault.


    This is just the same old typical DFW FTP kneejerk reaction.
    Supporting personal freedom is a kneejerk?
    The chances of anyone breaking in my house may be slim, but I would still want the law to support the homeowner in every possible situation unless there is a lawful reason for the intrusion.

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  • 03trubluGT
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    Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
    Because you're an asshole...it's my problem? Man your profession is shining through!
    Now you've resorted to name calling!

    Way to go there junior!

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  • Sean88gt
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    Originally posted by sc281 View Post
    Since most of them are limp-wristed tree huggers, the question would be: Would you want them in your Army?
    Sucking the dicks of democracy - The Obama Army.

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  • SlowLX
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    You people are still failing to realize the military is NOT going to abandon the federal government without good cause. The lower enlisted ranks who would be the easiest to sway don't have enough leaderships, weapons, supplies, or ability to carry on a revolution; officers are not going to desert the Federal government en mass without SERIOUS fuck ups by the government or by a large change in allegiances by the flag grade officers who also are not going to abandon the Federal government solely on the charge or slowly eroding civil liberties.

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  • 03trubluGT
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    Originally posted by sc281 View Post
    I'm so glad the people like you charged with upholding our rights are so comfortable in accepting and facilitating the erosion of them.

    And you wonder why so many have such a dismal view of Law Enforcement.
    What the fcku am I going to do to change with the current environment of the Supreme Court? I have to adapt and overcome, just like everyone else.

    My bitching about it won't change it, so I have to work within the parameters that are set before me.

    I've found that mostly those that have a dismal view of law enforcement do so becuase of their unwillingness to accept personal responsibility.

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  • The King
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    Originally posted by sc281 View Post
    Since most of them are limp-wristed tree huggers, the question would be: Would you want them in your Army?
    H*ll no, but they are nonetheless the so-called "majority". What would give a true revolutionary minority the authority to dictate through force what the majority should think and do? Then the revolutionaries become the very thing they're opposed to.

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  • sc281
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    Originally posted by The King View Post
    Education for one. Consider that mass support for a revolution just isn't there. Remember that the majority of voters gave us Obama....do you really think they would join any revolutionary uprising.
    Since most of them are limp-wristed tree huggers, the question would be: Would you want them in your Army?

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  • Ruffdaddy
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    Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
    That wasn't me.

    The difference between polite and pushy asshole is perception. If you're easily offended, then you need to grow a thicker skin.
    Because you're an asshole...it's my problem? Man your profession is shining through!

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