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  • Zfan
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    Sad situation for sure.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    What is the world coming to when you have to have a trial after beating a homeless man to death?
    You mean what is the world coming to when those who beat a homeless man to death on video are acquitted and get to stay on as police to do it again.

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  • SEB
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    That is bullshit!!!

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  • Broncojohnny
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    What is the world coming to when you have to have a trial after beating a homeless man to death?

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  • SS Junk
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    I'm sure it's already known, but for those living under a rock:


    By Adolfo Flores and Paloma Esquivel

    January 13, 2014, 4:31 p.m.

    An Orange County jury Monday found two former Fullerton police officers accused of killing a schizophrenic homeless man, Kelly Thomas, not guilty.

    Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli were charged with striking Kelly Thomas with a baton and a stun gun in a beating that left him comatose. He died five days later.

    [Updated at 4:25 p.m.: Ramos, Cicinelli and their families were swiftly escorted out of the courtroom.

    PHOTOS: The Kelly Thomas trial

    Ron Thomas, Kelly Thomas' father, said he was stunned by the verdict, saying he'd never seen such a miscarriage of justice.

    Thomas also suggested that federal authorities should look into the case.

    Ramos' attorney, John Barnett, told reporters: "These peace officers were doing their jobs...they did what they were trained to do."

    PHOTOS: The Kelly Thomas trial

    Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas said prosecutors would not pursue charges against a third Fullerton officer accused in the Thomas case. That officer's trial was pending.

    "I don't intend to proceed with another trial when the two officers here were acquitted," he told reporters.

    The jury took less than a full day of deliberation to reach the not-guilty verdicts.

    Rackauckas told jurors the former officers had abused their authority on the July evening when they confronted Thomas.

    Ramos was facing second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges, and Cicinelli was charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force under the color of authority.

    The incident, captured on surveillance tape, was shown repeatedly during the trial, but each side drew different conclusions as to what it showed.

    Prosecutors said the video captured a real-time homicide with the officers beating a homeless man, even as he called out for help. Defense attorneys said it showed two policeman trying to restrain a violent suspect who possessed abnormal strength.

    The coroner's office determined that Thomas died of brain damage from lack of oxygen caused by chest compression and other injuries sustained during his struggle with police.

    Defense attorneys suggested that Thomas' death could be tied to a diseased heart damaged by previous drug use.




    An Orange County jury Monday found two former Fullerton police officers accused of killing a schizophrenic homeless man, Kelly Thomas, not guilty.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by abecx View Post
    Self entitlement is the typical police officer attitude I get. When did they forget that they serve us?

    Trublu, come wash my car then arrest me on warrants.



    I love when fagmo cops say "WERE NOT ALL LIKE THAT" but when the come to my window with request to see my license and insurance they have their hand on their taser, gun, or baton ready to beat the shit out of me as if we are all like that.

    SUCK MY DICK COPS.


    My last encounter they fucking had me get out of the car and grill me trying to get me to admit bullshit. I don't do drugs mother fuckers. I've been arrested like 20 times, I've been pulled over 238472938 times, I've never been busted with anything illegal. GO SUCK A FUCK.

    I told the cop they could cut off my 10 years worth of hair and run an analysis.
    My favorite is when you're stupid enough to fall for the "If you don't have anything to hide" line and let them look through your car and they tear it apart and don't find anything, then leave you on the side of the road trying to put it back together in the dark.

    Or when they have you put your hands on the hood of your black car, that's been driving so the hood is hot, in the middle of the summer, so the hood is hot, and then get pissed because it's too hot to put your hands on

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  • abecx
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    None of this applies to the police. You have to learn to accept these double standards, otherwise Trublu cries his eyes out all over this fucking website.
    Self entitlement is the typical police officer attitude I get. When did they forget that they serve us?

    Trublu, come wash my car then arrest me on warrants.



    I love when fagmo cops say "WERE NOT ALL LIKE THAT" but when the come to my window with request to see my license and insurance they have their hand on their taser, gun, or baton ready to beat the shit out of me as if we are all like that.

    SUCK MY DICK COPS.


    My last encounter they fucking had me get out of the car and grill me trying to get me to admit bullshit. I don't do drugs mother fuckers. I've been arrested like 20 times, I've been pulled over 238472938 times, I've never been busted with anything illegal. GO SUCK A FUCK.

    I told the cop they could cut off my 10 years worth of hair and run an analysis.

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  • futant
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    Originally posted by Steve View Post
    LMAO, that's the first thing I thought of too. Look Frost, you're not the craziest person on the board after all!

    Unloading on police? Seriously? lol.
    Damn i was just trying to fan some flames, and I can't even get a ounce of credit around here no more.

    <---needs to go find another more normalized board to burn down

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  • futant
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    Originally posted by abecx View Post
    If a cop does no action to another cop that kills someone, are they not accessory to murder?


    If me and 5 other friends ( assuming i had that many ) beat the shit out of whiteboy and he died, wouldn't all 6 of us be held accountable regardless?
    LMAO, that's what im saying!

    your way is just 10x funnier.
    I cannot believe ppl are still talking about 'whiteboy'
    Man ive been around this site too long.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    None of this applies to the police. You have to learn to accept these double standards, otherwise Trublu cries his eyes out all over this fucking website.
    Just like if you kick in a door you're not supposed to be at and spray a household with indiscriminate gunfire, you're going to prison for a LONG time.

    If you're a PD, you leave the dog dead, the local mayor laying in the dog blood, the door destroyed and walk out

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by abecx View Post
    If a cop does no action to another cop that kills someone, are they not accessory to murder?


    If me and 5 other friends ( assuming i had that many ) beat the shit out of whiteboy and he died, wouldn't all 6 of us be held accountable regardless?
    None of this applies to the police. You have to learn to accept these double standards, otherwise Trublu cries his eyes out all over this fucking website.

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by abecx View Post
    If a cop does no action to another cop that kills someone, are they not accessory to murder?


    If me and 5 other friends ( assuming i had that many ) beat the shit out of whiteboy and he died, wouldn't all 6 of us be held accountable regardless?



    It would take 6 of you to beat up Jeremy? Pussies!

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  • ThreeFingerPete
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    Originally posted by Samhain View Post
    At the very least, film it and be a good witness.
    I'm sorry, It's not assault if you start yanking those fucks off of that guy, especially while someone else is video taping it.

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  • Samhain
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    Originally posted by Steve View Post
    So what am I to do?
    At the very least, film it and be a good witness.

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  • Steve
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    Originally posted by mikec View Post
    We need to get together and have some man love one of these days. Put all these hard feelings behind us...


    Lol. Good post...
    I have no hard feelings at all Mike. Life is too short to hold grudges over trivial shit. I much rather make friends than enemies. Just let me know when you'd like to get together.

    Originally posted by ThreeFingerPete View Post
    Unfortunately, the average person doesn't take one honorable breath in their entire fucking lives. If you can walk past this sort of shit going on and not do what you can to help out of principle alone, then you aren't worth the oxygen that you breathe. Your deeds will define you, not your big TV, your salary, your house, none of it. If you can't stand up for your brother, then you won't stand up for yourself. If you won't stand up for yourself, then you're more akin to the violator than the violatee.
    I agree with you. You know me, you know that I'm one not typically to hesitate into action when need be. The problem with that scenario you mentioned is that I am a husband and a father, I don't have luxury of taking life altering chances. So what am I to do?

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