'El Loco' Arrested After 49 Beheaded Bodies Found

[dville_gt]

Well you better pick a side because you're advocating us as the problem on both sides of the issue. What exactly makes you think they've fought long and hard? Seems to me like they haven't done shit.

Since Caledron took office 50k deaths related to the "drug war". Roughly 8-10% of those were police/military. Their previous passive policies yielded a much lower "non-cartel" death toll. I have a feeling they will be returning back to those policies VERY shortly.

Our problem is our current "drug war" has done nothing but fill the jails, it obviously has not curbed the demand/usage. Drug user treatment has been proven to be more effective by a huge magnitude but we'd rather throw them in jail knowing they'll be back in the game the day they get out. Until we get a handle on the part of the equation we can control I don't see how criticizing any other country is really fair (esp. since WE fund that very problem). Mexico will throw in the towel, all this violence for what, to keep drugs out of the US?

A black market will always be a problem for any culture. It always has been, it always will be. Our government spend billions of dollars fighting drugs, prosecuting people who use, transport, and sell them. We are fighting on our end. Mexico isn't doing shit on their end. They've lost control of their entire country, they are being dominated by cartels, and it's entirely their own fault for losing control. Mexico has the highest murder rate in the world, more so than Somalia and the worst of Africa. That is ridiculous.

Pretty easy solution to eliminating the black market on a product. Of course then agencies would lose funding and we can't have that. 2012 and we're still trying to engineer people to be perfect through legislation. It's fucking idiotic, really.

[CJ]

only thing we've succeded at is filling prisons. our "war on drugs" is a joke. in all actuality i can't believe mexico has fought this long/hard to keep drugs out of OUR country

Well you better pick a side because you're advocating us as the problem on both sides of the issue. What exactly makes you think they've fought long and hard? Seems to me like they haven't done shit.

[dville_gt]

A black market will always be a problem for any culture. It always has been, it always will be. Our government spend billions of dollars fighting drugs, prosecuting people who use, transport, and sell them. We are fighting on our end. Mexico isn't doing shit on their end. They've lost control of their entire country, they are being dominated by cartels, and it's entirely their own fault for losing control. Mexico has the highest murder rate in the world, more so than Somalia and the worst of Africa. That is ridiculous.

only thing we've succeded at is filling prisons. our "war on drugs" is a joke. in all actuality i can't believe mexico has fought this long/hard to keep drugs out of OUR country

[CJ]

only pointing out that our insatiable appetite for the product they are selling assures that these cartels will always be very well funded (in many cases better funded then the military they are fighting). if mexico threw in the towel and allowed one cartel to take over and stopped fighting it the only real effect would be easier/cheaper drugs here (with less violence there after the dust settled obviously). the folks down there (for the most part) are not the buyers.

A black market will always be a problem for any culture. It always has been, it always will be. Our government spend billions of dollars fighting drugs, prosecuting people who use, transport, and sell them. We are fighting on our end. Mexico isn't doing shit on their end. They've lost control of their entire country, they are being dominated by cartels, and it's entirely their own fault for losing control. Mexico has the highest murder rate in the world, more so than Somalia and the worst of Africa. That is ridiculous.

[Taylor]

Free the weed!

:P

[dville_gt]

it's our fault.

only pointing out that our insatiable appetite for the product they are selling assures that these cartels will always be very well funded (in many cases better funded then the military they are fighting). if mexico threw in the towel and allowed one cartel to take over and stopped fighting it the only real effect would be easier/cheaper drugs here (with less violence there after the dust settled obviously). the folks down there (for the most part) are not the buyers.

[CJ]

Well who elses fault is it?

Is this is a serious question? 49 beheaded people are the fault of the criminals in Mexico, and the lack of control the government has.

[mstng86]

it's our fault.

Well who elses fault is it?

[4bangen]

Not as long as we keep buying all their drugs

[CJ]

Not as long as we keep buying all their drugs

it's our fault.

[dville_gt]

Mexico will never fix their problem.

Not as long as we keep buying all their drugs

[Machx2]

1 is captured 2 will take his place

This. And hundreds of others will wait in line to move up. Mexico will never fix their problem.

[JFurst]

1 is captured 2 will take his place

[mstng86]

Authorities have arrested an alleged Zetas drug cartel leader nicknamed "El Loco," AKA the Fool or the Crazy One, on charges that he dumped 49 headless bodies on a highway outside Monterrey, Mexico.

When the Mexican Army came to arrest Daniel Elizondo Jesus Ramirez, say authorities, Ramirez attempted to elude capture by shooting at troops and throwing a fragmentation grenade. Zetas commanders nicknamed The Shrimp and The Speaker have also been linked to the body dump, but officials have not yet apprehended them.

The mutilated bodies of 43 men and six women were found near Cadereyta, Mexico on May 13. Though the condition of the bodies made it difficult to identify any of them, some physical features and tattoos indicated that they may have been migrants from southern Mexico and Central America.

A graphic seven-minute video posted on the web last week allegedly showed gunmen dumping the bodies, and then flourishing a "narcobanner" "signed" by El Loco and two other alleged Zetas commanders.

The banner warned that the same fate would befall members of rival cartels, the police and the military. The video is still available on-line, though a version that was posted on YouTube has been removed. The first version that appeared on YouTube was posted by someone who claimed to be a Zeta.

After the bodies were discovered in Cadereyta, the Zetas posted new "narcobanners" throughout Northern Mexico condemning the murders, but Mexican officials claimed they had only done so to create confusion about responsibility for the deaths.

The Zetas, who dominate much of eastern and northern Mexico, are battling the Gulf cartel and the Sinaloa cartel for dominance in Nuevo Leon and other Mexican states. Founded by former members of the Mexican military, the Zetas have a reputation for violence.





During a press conference in Mexico City, Brig. General Edgar Ruiz Villegas Melendez alleged that "El Loco" had been told to dump the bodies in the town square of Cadereyta but instead chose to dump them on a nearby highway. Villegas claimed that Ramirez, who was arrested Sunday, had confessed to dumping the corpses and said he'd done so on the orders of Zeta leaders.

El Loco is also a suspect in the kidnapping, murder and dismembering of two women last year, one of them the girlfriend of an Army lieutenant. He was mistakenly reported killed during an operation to apprehend the alleged kidnapers. He sent a taunting message to the Mexican media that said, "I'm still alive ... El Loco of the Zetas."