Nissan Titan to get a Cummins 4cyl Diesel engine

[Strychnine]

CMI is a good buy even at this price point. We are buying some in our company investment accounts. Navistar is basically vacating the medium duty engine market, opening the door for 90%+ market share for Cummins. Should be a good stock for the next few years.

*looks over shouler for QIK46*

Not that it will affect stock performance or anything but the plug got pulled on the ISX15-G (spark ignited natgas) engine recently.

[quikag]

CMI is a good buy even at this price point. We are buying some in our company investment accounts. Navistar is basically vacating the medium duty engine market, opening the door for 90%+ market share for Cummins. Should be a good stock for the next few years.

[Strychnine]

Nissan just unveiled a Cummins ISF2.8 powered Frontier concept truck to "gauge market interest."

Nissan Frontier Diesel Runner Powered by Cummins: Midsize Project Truck
A 2.8-liter Cummins turbo diesel with nearly 200 horsepower and more than 350 lb-ft of torque under the hood

Text By Monica Gonderman
February 05, 2014





What in the world is going on? Once upon a time there was the mini truck, and it was awesome. Then, in the early and mid-80s in the United States, there was the naturally-aspirated and turbocharged diesel mini truck, and that was still awesome. Then, in the mid to late-90s, the mini truck began to get rounder, but it was still awesome. Then, in the mid-2000s, the mini truck ate too much and swelled into a midsize truck. Then, by 2014, the Nissan Frontier and the Toyota Tacoma were the only descendants of the mini truck era. But is that the end of the story? For the “true” mini truck, yes; those days are over.

However, the midsize segment continues, and in fact, a somewhat lazy lull in the action has been recently attacked by a resurgence of diesel rumblings, the latest from Nissan. Could this be? It’s been thirty years since we’ve seen a United States diesel “mini” truck from Nissan, with the 61 hp/102 lb-ft of torque 2.2L SD22 in the Datsun 720 from 1982 through 1983 and the 70 hp/115 lb-ft of torque 2.5L SD25 from 1983 through 1985. After discontinuing its Colorado and Canyon, GM will reintroduce a new generation of these models for the 2015 model year, with plans of a diesel offering in 2016. And now we’re hearing of a Cummins in a Frontier!

It’s called the Nissan Frontier Diesel Runner Powered by Cummins, and it’s a concept project truck created by Nissan to gauge the market’s reaction to a diesel Nissan midsize truck and to help strategize the future direction for the next-generation Frontier. Set to be introduced at the 2014 Chicago Auto Show at McCormick Place in Chicago, the concept is based on a Frontier Desert Runner 4x2, with the addition of a diesel powerplant, hence the Diesel Runner title.





The use of a Cummins is not surprising, given the recent partnership with Cummins Inc. that resulted in the 5.0-liter turbo diesel V8 to be used in the next-generation Titan. However, the Cummins in the concept Frontier is a different engine – a 2.8-liter 4-cylinder turbo diesel, actually once tested in the Titan but now adapted for the Frontier and designed with future emissions standards in mind. Power figures estimate nearly 200 hp and more than 350 lb-ft of torque, with a 35 percent increase in fuel economy over a two-wheel drive V6 2014 Frontier.

Actually, collaboration between Nissan and Cummins stems back to the 2010 U.S. Department of Energy project called “ATLAS” (Advanced Technology Light Automotive Systems), where important research helped shape this project’s Cummins engine. In fact, you may remember this particular 2.8L from August 2011's Direct Injection editorial and this article from the September 2011 issue: New Cummins 2.8L Four-Cylinder Diesel Engine. Could this 2.8L, once slated for the 1/2-ton, find its home in a Frontier beyond this concept?

The transmission mated to the 2.8L is a ZF 8HP70 8-speed automatic. (Think Ram EcoDiesel. Could we also see the ZF 8HP70 behind the 5.0L Titan?) Although the engine and transmission are not “plug-and-play” for the Frontier, many of the key components, including wiring harnesses and the radiator, are from a production 2014 Desert Runner Frontier.

The “Arrest Me Red” exterior paint, the Cummins Turbo Diesel badges recessed into both front fenders, and the partially transparent acrylic hood that shows off an oversized Cummins logo and red-themed engine bay confirmation that the Diesel Runner is not bashful in sharing its Cummins powerplant. Word has it that a separate, perhaps more subdued, development Cummins Frontier is undergoing rigorous real-world testing.

“We hope consumers in Chicago and across the U.S. will let us know what they think of the prospects of a diesel engine in this segment.” Per the request of Pierre Loing, vice president, Product Planning, Nissan North America, let’s give Nissan some positive feedback regarding the Cummins-powered Frontier Diesel Runner! Let’s see it beat the diesel Canyon and Colorado to the market.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/news/1402_nissan_frontier_diesel_runner_powered_by_cummins_midsize_project_truck/

Press Release here: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/06/n...-chicago-2014/

[Sean88gt]

Should have bought when I sent you the LOL text when it hit $79

[Strychnine]

It's trading near peak right now. Not to say it won't rise.

When I was buying my house (late 08, early 09) CMI was hovering around $20. It dipped to $17 at one point.

I debated buying a house or buying CMI w/ what I would have paid on down payment, closing, etc.

Within a year it had tripled. Within 2 years... I could have made a 500% return. It's trading for $124 today.

FML

[dangerous_sep]

It's trading near peak right now. Not to say it won't rise.

buy it on a small dip (prob wont be one now with all this news) and sell when Nissan and Toyota debut their all time high 1/2ton truck sales. Or sell before all of the first gen problems and recalls start coming up lol.

[ceyko]

Towing is a big one for me and most average consumers can get way with just being able to tow 1-2 thousand pounds. After that 4-5 thousand pounds is needed. Past that, rent something if needed or get a bigger truck.

I concur on the Titan gas mileage being shit. I expected 16 mpg. I got 16 when on the highway, driving mildly and coasting to everything I could coast to. Normally it was 12-14 mpg at best. In fairness, that gas mileage did not change very much when towing 3000-3500 pounds.

[Sean88gt]

might be time to drop some coin into cummins stock!

It's trading near peak right now. Not to say it won't rise.

[dangerous_sep]

might be time to drop some coin into cummins stock!

[snacksnack]

I want the ford ranger diesel! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[lincolnboy]

reminds me of the ranger
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb8F1ZIMLB0&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]

[Sean88gt]

I can almost promise you that Cummins won't lock themselves into a contract the way they did with Dodge, especially with them losing market share in class 8 trucks. They kind of signed a deal with the devil in their Paccar agreement. Although this has been ironed out somewhat.

I am curious how much this deal (Nissan, Toyota, etc) is worth. The Dodge deal isn't that big, compared to bigger automotive and industrial.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Toyota mulling Cummins diesel for Tundra?

When Bloomberg spoke to Toyota USA Sales CEO Kazua Ohara recently, we highlighted his comments on the possible return of the Toyota Supra. However, the interview started with Ohara discussing the Tundra, and how it would take time to pinpoint and hone the pickup truck's brand image in the minds of consumers. That effort could get a boost, with a report in Edmunds saying that Toyota is "evaluating" the addition of a Cummins turbodiesel to the Tundra's engine options.

The Cummins powerplant is one of two options for the moment, the other being a hybrid powertrain. If the oil-burner got the thumbs-up, Toyota would follow the recent example of Nissan, which announced it would put a Cummins turbodiesel into its 2015 Titan. While the two Japanese companies make a closer comparison since they're both talking about Cummins applications in light-duty trucks, if it happens, it could be seen as further diluting the once-exclusive tie-up that Ram trucks has had with Cummins even though Ram has used Cummins in its heavy-duty truck.
Toyota hasn't said when it will decide on which direction to take, but either will be a move for the better in the view of segment watchers; PickupTrucks.com said the first of its top-five fixes for the Tundra would be a better engine, perhaps a diesel-electric hybrid from Toyota's Hino unit. Cummins told Edmunds it can supply a second manufacturer with the 5.0-liter diesel that Nissan will be using, so we wouldn't be surprised to see it end up in a Toyota or somewhere else.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/02/toyota-tundra-cummins-diesel-engine/

[Mysticcobrakilla]

Dammit...I was hoping you were a fanboy and I could rip your tits on the cat truck having the shitty maxxforce diesel

Lmao! No Cat fanboy here.

[Sean88gt]

Actually, those truck are giant piles of shit!

And to answer your question, I work for Cat.

Im just fucking with Matt. He knows what I do for a living.

Dammit...I was hoping you were a fanboy and I could rip your tits on the cat truck having the shitty maxxforce diesel