How many think that the troops are really fighting for our freedom?

[Trip McNeely]

did i say i didn't like capitalism? i just pointed out how it functions.

great retort btw. shows your intelligence.

Well if you argued for it, you must believe it right? Unless you just Google pasted some bullshit.

[jnobles06]

I love hearing the dipshit opponents of Capitalism. Usually the biggest consumers of Capitalism. Shut the fuck up.

did i say i didn't like capitalism? i just pointed out how it functions.

great retort btw. shows your intelligence.

[F8LSVT]

but none of that has anything to do with you saying soldiers haven't fought for our freedom since the 1800s. That is bullshit and you need to get your head out of your ass.

qft.

[Trip McNeely]

the fight is for the capitalist agenda under the guise of freedom, so big business can continue to exploit cheap resources of other countries, then turn around mark them up, and sell them to us for max profit. they just employ demagoguery through use words like "freedom" and "terrorism," to get the public to support their efforts.

the irony is that a lot of the campaign financiers are incorporated off shore and pay hardly any taxes, but some how have millions of dollars to invest in the presidential election. a majority of the time the candidate with the largest budget or contributions wins the election, hence the election is bought. same thing with congressional elections, and guess who actually votes for the president; congress. Al Gore won the popular vote against Bush, but Bush took office. You see, even if the people vote one way congress can still say no. its just an illusion of choice and freedom, and is that way by design which are the laws that congress vote on that govern such things.

I love hearing the dipshit opponents of Capitalism. Usually the biggest consumers of Capitalism. Shut the fuck up.

[jnobles06]

the fight is for the capitalist agenda under the guise of freedom, so big business can continue to exploit cheap resources of other countries, then turn around mark them up, and sell them to us for max profit. they just employ demagoguery through use words like "freedom" and "terrorism," to get the public to support their efforts.

the irony is that a lot of the campaign financiers are incorporated off shore and pay hardly any taxes, but some how have millions of dollars to invest in the presidential election. a majority of the time the candidate with the largest budget or contributions wins the election, hence the election is bought. same thing with congressional elections, and guess who actually votes for the president; congress. Al Gore won the popular vote against Bush, but Bush took office. You see, even if the people vote one way congress can still say no. its just an illusion of choice and freedom, and is that way by design which are the laws that congress vote on that govern such things.

[Trip McNeely]

Secure the southern border, park our navy off the east and west coasts and who in their right mind would even try and attack? It would be a suicide mission that would have no chance of getting through. You wouldn’t have Russian bombers flying 50 miles off our borders either.

Do you actually believe warfare is that black and white/conventional these days? Give me a fucking break. It isn't that cut and dry.

[cyclonescott]

Secure the southern border, park our navy off the east and west coasts and who in their right mind would even try and attack? It would be a suicide mission that would have no chance of getting through. You wouldn’t have Russian bombers flying 50 miles off our borders either.

[Forever_frost]

Yes, I believe we fight for American freedom. You don't have to worry about Japan invading here though the Russians are getting uppity again.

[Nash B.]

Don't you like how propaganda works? Soldiers haven’t fought for our freedom since the1800’s.

I was going to say WWII, but then I thought on it a little more. We're fighting in the Middle East to keep the shit over there from getting worse and coming over here.

They are fighting for your freedom in the sense of an interventionist foreign policy. Meaning that world wars start out as regional wars which start out as individual wars. Look at what is happening in Iraq today, if you let the blow up too big then someone can end up invading the USA. I don't favor intervening in every war or anything like that but I also don't favor isolationism.

This.

Sorry, but imperialism and intervention has been the major cause of conflict throughout the world. It is the major cause of problems in the Middle East now. We wouldn’t have the problems that we do now with Iraq if we hadn’t backed Saddam. The same policies that sent Egypt and Libya into tail spins are what caused problems with Iran in the 50’s.

I agree that we don't need to run other countries and don't need to put assholes in charge of other countries, but we also don't need to let assholes run amok.

[sc281]

i have never seen U.S.A. be invaded by another country.

There have been 4 invasions in our history.

The british (rev. War) then the british (war of 1812), japan in ww2, and now the mexicans (2014).

[cyclonescott]

Big fucking deal. Up until a certain point the Nazis were perfectly acceptable and did business with everyone. It wasn't a conspiracy, they were just assholes. We do business with plenty of assholes today.

But none of that has anything to do with you saying soldiers haven't fought for our freedom since the 1800s. That is bullshit and you need to get your head out of your ass.

Sorry, but imperialism and intervention has been the major cause of conflict throughout the world. It is the major cause of problems in the Middle East now. We wouldn’t have the problems that we do now with Iraq if we hadn’t backed Saddam. The same policies that sent Egypt and Libya into tail spins are what caused problems with Iran in the 50’s.

[Broncojohnny]

Then we fight them on our beaches. Fact is they wouldn't have become as powerful as they did without backing by certain high powered people in the US. They also wouldn’t have been able to fly their planes without the additives that they were buying from Standard Oil.

Big fucking deal. Up until a certain point the Nazis were perfectly acceptable and did business with everyone. It wasn't a conspiracy, they were just assholes. We do business with plenty of assholes today.

But none of that has anything to do with you saying soldiers haven't fought for our freedom since the 1800s. That is bullshit and you need to get your head out of your ass.

[cyclonescott]

This is bullshit. If you don't think that the Axis powers would have invaded the US homeland at first opportunity, you may be smoking crack.

Then we fight them on our beaches. Fact is they wouldn't have become as powerful as they did without backing by certain high powered people in the US. They also wouldn’t have been able to fly their planes without the additives that they were buying from Standard Oil.

[jewozzy]

i have never seen U.S.A. be invaded by another country.

Actually Japan ruled over parts of Alaska during WW2

[Broncojohnny]

i have never seen U.S.A. be invaded by another country.

In the war of 1812 the British invaded the Northern US, Southern Louisiana and also sacked Washington DC.