How many think that the troops are really fighting for our freedom?

[8mpg]

interesting thread.... took a different tone than I would have expected.

I love my country and my freedoms here. I have traveled to a few other parts of the world to realize we have it pretty good here. Are we fighting for our freedom? No way. I agree that we are a part of a capitalistic society and that there are the elite in which they rule the world. Political power appears to be purchased here in America rather than what is best for the people. Our troops fight endless wars and sacrifice their lives in my opinion pointless wars.

Im not sure whether isolationism is a great idea though Im sick of America playing world police. Our society continues to evolve and moral standards change. Other societies throughout the world have other opinions in which the general American consensus states that they are wrong. We all know that leaving people alone will never happen and we all have motives. Just like religion, politics leads us to wars. Trying to expand views just causes more trouble.

I believe with the true corruption of our political system and the intrinsic greed in some of the capitalistic society, we fight for ideals of freedom but not for freedom. We fight for an instinctual greed.

[Sean88gt]

IBM sold them the computers they used to process and centralize records, and Prescott Bush financed the fuel purchases they used to invade Poland, so we're not entirely blameless. At least we got the final solution to thirst out of the deal.

The next thing you're going to tell me is that Henry Ford supported Hitler...

[YALE]

You didn't know? The holocaust is America's fault.

IBM sold them the computers they used to process and centralize records, and Prescott Bush financed the fuel purchases they used to invade Poland, so we're not entirely blameless. At least we got the final solution to thirst out of the deal.

[exlude]

This board went full retard.

You didn't know? The holocaust is America's fault.

[chronical]

What some need is patriotism. Hind sight is always 20/20. I'm American and that's that. It's people that sometimes suck. We live and we die and during that time, you will always have some asshole over reaching his power, or slaughtering their people, or looking for a way to make a buck at another's expense. But what ever the conflict is, I'll tell you what country's side I am on. I like to believe, our nation does what's best for our nation. And if that particular asshole ever happens to be from our side, then I'll continue to lace up my boots each morning for work until I can vote some other guy into office.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

This board went full retard.

[cyclonescott]

how can you say japan sanctions were wrong, but then want to take away germany's posion gas and have the US aid jews.

if your stance is US neutrality; if you are supplying one with the resources to make war then you can't take away the other or else the US wouldn't be neutral anymore.

Hitler rose to power partially because of sanctions on Germany from WW1 and the great depression. If there hadn’t been impossible sanctions imposed on Germany after the first WW chances are Hitler wouldn’t have come into power.
I don’t think that Japan would have gone to war with the US or Britain If it’s resources hadn’t been cut off.
You may not think sanctions are so peaceful if China ever imposes them on the US.

[jnobles06]

The mass genocide that was happening in a gas chamber with chemicals supplied by IG Farben, the German subsidiary of Standard Oil.
Oh, and don’t forget about the Jew’s who were turned away at American shores, even when the US government knew about the genocides.

how can you say japan sanctions were wrong, but then want to take away germany's posion gas and have the US aid jews.

if your stance is US neutrality; if you are supplying one with the resources to make war then you can't take away the other or else the US wouldn't be neutral anymore.

[lowthreeohz]

Oh, and don’t forget about the Jew’s who were turned away at American shores, even when the US government knew about the genocides.

apostrophe genocide.

[cyclonescott]

Oh yea. And I wonder how many of those supporters were aware of the mass genocide occurring.

Of course people were against a war with Germany, who the hell really wants to go to war?

The mass genocide that was happening in a gas chamber with chemicals supplied by IG Farben, the German subsidiary of Standard Oil.
Oh, and don’t forget about the Jew’s who were turned away at American shores, even when the US government knew about the genocides.

[mstng86]

They majority of Americans wanted nothing to do with the war back in the late 30’s and there was actually a significant amount of people that supported Germany over Britain.

Oh yea. And I wonder how many of those supporters were aware of the mass genocide occurring.

Of course people were against a war with Germany, who the hell really wants to go to war?

[cyclonescott]

I'm all for thinking outside the box, but believing the US could have and should have stayed out of WWII is just asinine.

They majority of Americans wanted nothing to do with the war back in the late 30’s and there was actually a significant amount of people that supported Germany over Britain.

[cyclonescott]

like i said we weren't in the war. we sought a peaceful resolution by restricting resources to try and impede the war, which is our right as a nation, and then they attacked.

your argument is that they wouldn't have had the resources to wage war on us, but as you can see they would have brought war to us before they ran out because they needed the resources, which they did just that.

hindsight is always 20/20

I disagree that sanctions are a peaceful resolution. The US and British imperialism had taken away Japans access to the resources in the pacific. They wouldn’t have attacked if we had continued to trade freely with them.
Remember that they attacked us on an island that we had forcefully taken less than 50 year earlier.

[Nash B.]

There was a reason it was called World War II and not the Euro-Asian War.

[mstng86]

I'm all for thinking outside the box, but believing the US could have and should have stayed out of WWII is just asinine.