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  • dville_gt
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    Originally posted by grove rat View Post
    out of the 20-30 immediate people i know only one is unemployed and collecting unemployment.

    man, that is a hell of a sample if i've ever seen one.

    out of all of the people i know right now, i can't think of one that is currently has cancer. must mean cancer has been cured!



    some estimates put the number of people on federal aid at 49%, ironically the same % of people who pay no tax. granted most of those folks dont rely on the gov for EVERYTHING, but a lot of those folks would be swayed by the notion of losing whatever support they are receiving.

    and to me, if even 5% of the country could not sustain their life's with out the government, that is a HUGE %

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  • grove rat
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    Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
    just fyi, this site is not exactly a great sample of the general population of the us. sure, if everyone in the country were gun lovers who like to hot rod their cars, plan for dooms day scenarios, and wear american flag sweat pants i'd say the outcome would be very favorable for the masses. instead we live in a country that a huge % of the population relies on the gov. for their basic needs (food, shelter, etc.), those folks would be easy to win over once you cut them off, then you have the folks who just want to survive and will roll over to stay alive, then you'd have the folks who actually support the effort and think guns are the root of all evil, and the list goes on and on. finally you have the dfwmustangs crowd, and even some of these folks would flee the country (dohctr), turn them over, or bunker down and not help the "uprising". so that leaves you with what i'd consider a VERY small % of people who would do jack about it.
    how did you come to that conclusion? out of the 20-30 immediate people i know only one is unemployed and collecting unemployment. she got layed off due to cutbacks 2 weeks ago, but knowing her she'll have a job before the application even goes through haha


    so who is huge percentage of people are that fully reliant on the gubment?(please dont say all the people in the ghetto cause we all know that it's a small percentage compared to the population. plus most people in the ghetto actually have normal jobs. hard to believe i know)

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  • dville_gt
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    just fyi, this site is not exactly a great sample of the general population of the us. sure, if everyone in the country were gun lovers who like to hot rod their cars, plan for dooms day scenarios, and wear american flag sweat pants i'd say the outcome would be very favorable for the masses. instead we live in a country that a huge % of the population relies on the gov. for their basic needs (food, shelter, etc.), those folks would be easy to win over once you cut them off, then you have the folks who just want to survive and will roll over to stay alive, then you'd have the folks who actually support the effort and think guns are the root of all evil, and the list goes on and on. finally you have the dfwmustangs crowd, and even some of these folks would flee the country (dohctr), turn them over, or bunker down and not help the "uprising". so that leaves you with what i'd consider a VERY small % of people who would do jack about it.

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  • 32valves_of_pleasure
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    Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
    Prob not a bad idea 4bangen, but I'm sure a short search on the site could prove that untrue! I do find it odd though that the same place that has folks jumping ship to Australia, talking about how doomed we are, about increased gov control, about the majority of folks being freeloaders, etc., are so sure the country would never trample on our gun rights.


    if or when the haves have enough and are forced to take the power back from the have nots how do you see the government, that is in place due to the massive number of have nots, responding?

    We just learned the majority of the nation supports NDAA, SOPA, NSA, TSA, Homeland security, etc. some 60 million folks just voted for it.
    haha jump ship to australia. whoever is doing that must like paying more taxes than in the US.

    gun control, whatever. guns can be bought (or made) off the record, or on the record. it's in the governments best interest to keep it legal and not create a huge black market.

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  • Jester
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    I will bring the unfortunate souls that decide to take my weapons a war like they never could have imagined. I will quietly mutter under my breath from the water tower "vaya con dios gents" and I will patiently squeeze off round after round into the head of everyone against me until there is no enemy. I will set off every trap I have in place for them and watch the chaos unfold thru my scope. Sure, my nights will be filled with the nightmares and images of the burning screaming people but i will be comforted in the fact that no one will take my freedom. Live for something or die for nothing. Im glad a few of my fellow patriots understand what it means to stand up for what you believe in no matter the cost.
    Semper Fi

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  • black2002ls
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    Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
    Guess it depends on where you live on how things go. The Sheriff here has said he would not enforce a weapons confiscation program. If he is an honest man, the we would not have to fight local law enforcement but would rather have them on our side.

    And if I die, then so be it. I would rather stand for something than fall for anything. That is off a song, and I don't remember which one, but it has always struck a chord with me.
    I didn't see this song title resolved. IIRC "You've got to stand for something" by Aaron Tippin. You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string....

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

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  • ram57ta
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    I'm 41 years old....and over the last 4 years I've seen out country essentially collapse on its own stupidity and from greedy companies and politicians. I'm single...and I don't really see things getting significantly better any time soon. If for some reason...just to add fuel to the fire of my hatred for where things are going...they decide to come take my guns...which I bought legally, and became licensed to own and carry....it prolly won't end well for me and at least a few of them. I will die defending the ORIGINAL US Constitution and the liberties it promised me.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Even if it's a 1 to 1 death rate, any force against American citizens would run out of soldiers LONG before we ran out of people. And I'm betting it'd be a lot more lopsided than that. Hell, look how many cops get taken out by one guy with an AR

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  • BradM
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    Originally posted by grove rat View Post
    i will shoot the person collecting guns in the face. if i get shot down or executed because of it.. fine. i'd rather be dead than deal with whatever is next. if it involves disarming the public it can't be good
    This is my stance too. I'm no Billy badass either.

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  • tazz007
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    To answer the original question.

    I'm assuming I'm going to die, right after I take out at least one jack booted thug.


    And if the Jews had done this. The SS would have run out of people a long time before the Jews ran out of people.

    Frost, brother, I agree with you,,,,,,,BUT,,,,,,, we both could be wrong. This very thing this hole post has been about has happened before, and not that long ago to a people that had more freedom then, than we do right now. And to top it off, it was only a very small % of the population involved. the rest was just apathetic..... Kind of like Americans today...... How many people did not vote this time? 49%?

    Watch this.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH_Izul6J5M&feature=share[/ame]

    And then this.



    Take the time to watch both, you will be glad you did.

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  • naynay
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    wasp spray will take out a drones electronics. ax me how i know.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Drones are pretty neat, but as we have seen they can be taken down. I'm not seeing missiles used on population centers because of the cost of repairing the infrastructure. It's why we didn't use them in Iraq. Hell, we have ROE's that state if an insurgent enters a building we are to fall back and try negotiation.


    Edit: We do have some pretty neat taser walls, microwave crowd dispersion tech and then there's the wall of sound equipment but all of those require trucks full of equipment and power sources and can't be used in cities or even in the country that well. Deer rifles are a bitch.


    Microwave truck:





    Taser:




    Long range audio crowd dispersal

    Last edited by Forever_frost; 11-13-2012, 05:57 PM.

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  • mikec
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    Originally posted by SaTx04Lightning View Post
    There already taking your guns....you commit a act of family violence we must ask you for all your weapons...if you fail to comply...its put into the report....to recieve a bond to get out of jail a judge must set your bond.....if the arrest report states you refused to hand over your weapons the judge isn't suppose to issue you a bond to get out of jail....you choice, this is being conducted in the 7th largest city in the united states.
    I sorry occifer, all I have is this baseball bat. Here ya go...

    Did not know that, good to know.

    Originally posted by ceyko View Post
    If memory serves me right, Bosnia would be a good example of what happens when the military turns on its civilians. Took the US/UN to get that situated and that was genocide. Not the simple confiscation of weapons. Either way, they were mostly armed too (legal or not - don't know but we'd get TONS of guns in the UN Amnesty program). Just not organized like a military/government group would be - at least in comparison to a bunch of us operating mostly independent of each other.

    A lot of cultures have large families living together, tribes whatever you want to call them. Right off the bat, they are more organized than most us in comparison.

    I think it would take more than gun confiscation for the US population as a whole to revolt - is really what it boils down to. Without a bigger percentage fighting back, I just see failure.

    I'm not saying you should not resist/fight back, but a person should have a good expectation of the end result and prepare accordingly if the gov starts taking guns.

    Good post man.

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  • grove rat
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    i will shoot the person collecting guns in the face. if i get shot down or executed because of it.. fine. i'd rather be dead than deal with whatever is next. if it involves disarming the public it can't be good

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  • ceyko
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    If memory serves me right, Bosnia would be a good example of what happens when the military turns on its civilians. Took the US/UN to get that situated and that was genocide. Not the simple confiscation of weapons. Either way, they were mostly armed too (legal or not - don't know but we'd get TONS of guns in the UN Amnesty program). Just not organized like a military/government group would be - at least in comparison to a bunch of us operating mostly independent of each other.

    A lot of cultures have large families living together, tribes whatever you want to call them. Right off the bat, they are more organized than most us in comparison.

    I think it would take more than gun confiscation for the US population as a whole to revolt - is really what it boils down to. Without a bigger percentage fighting back, I just see failure.

    I'm not saying you should not resist/fight back, but a person should have a good expectation of the end result and prepare accordingly if the gov starts taking guns.

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