i give up, soo,,....

[fbodyjohnny]

a BIG reason why i bought this car is so i have something to work on and understand a little bit at a time. the reason i came to THIS SPECIFIC FORUM, was because i know there are a lot of guys on here that could help me understand some things, and push me in the right direction... now, with that said, i am NOT rejecting your information, i am only trying to tell you what i want, and why i want it THAT WAY. i dont want ALL MOTOR POWER...... i just dont,, ok?

[fbodyjohnny]

I had a long lengthy reply typed up, and fucked it up - but long story short....

If you don't know some of the common lingo, then you have NO IDEA what you are getting into. You post this thread, and then get all butthurt when you're called out on it instead of doing some simple research.

Your planned purchase makes NO sense as stated above, many times. You are overbuilding and overspending so far, it's rediculous. Now, if you are building with the plans of expansion - go for it..but, I don't think you realise what "more than 500HP" really is.

If you don't know engines, you don't know that you are undoubtely getting into the tougher stuff like changing oil, adjusting rockers etc.

Your specific inquiry into compression ratios is comical, there is no magic number what will or will not work with pump gas.. or what will or will not make more/less power and I DOUBT that you could tell a difference either way.

MY engine is very close to what you are trying to build, or spec out - It probably makes near 500RWHP N/A. Now, why exaclty do you need to put a blower on that to make 500HP? I'd also guess that I have near 15,000$ in it.

just some food for thought -

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFR-1450/ HEADS -1840.95
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ESP-B14003030/ROTATING ASSEMBLY - 1667.95
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DRT-31385235/BLOCK - 2667.95

Just those parts alone are nearly 6200$. That doesn't include any of the valve train, machine work, oil pan, intake, injectors, gasket set, balancer, or accessories.

why would you be like that? ok, at least im taking a STEP into the world unlike some people that just buy the car and dont even care whats done to it or what its capable of... i am capable of learning how it all works. VERY capable. ya know what i plan on doin with the 306 once i rip it out? learning how to tear it down and put it back together, piece by piece, as many times that it takes for me to understand it. same thing for everything else. so just because RIGHT NOW,, i dont know EVERYTHING, that gives YOU the right to call me out and tell me that im not making sense? maybe you dont know what my FULL intent is. maybe i want a vortech supercharger system so i can have a base tune for anything close to 500, and then a more agressive tune for boost PLUS water/meth, to get me closer to 575-600.... so please, for the love of god, dont try and tell me im not making sense. what i want, is what i want. what i know, is ONLY what i know at the time. did you come out of your mommas crotch knowin EVERYTHING about cars? im sure you didnt. so step down from your throne and try bein normal like everybody else.

[turbostang]

I had a long lengthy reply typed up, and fucked it up - but long story short....

If you don't know some of the common lingo, then you have NO IDEA what you are getting into. You post this thread, and then get all butthurt when you're called out on it instead of doing some simple research.

Your planned purchase makes NO sense as stated above, many times. You are overbuilding and overspending so far, it's rediculous. Now, if you are building with the plans of expansion - go for it..but, I don't think you realise what "more than 500HP" really is.

If you don't know engines, you don't know that you are undoubtely getting into the tougher stuff like changing oil, adjusting rockers etc.

Your specific inquiry into compression ratios is comical, there is no magic number what will or will not work with pump gas.. or what will or will not make more/less power and I DOUBT that you could tell a difference either way.

MY engine is very close to what you are trying to build, or spec out - It probably makes near 500RWHP N/A. Now, why exaclty do you need to put a blower on that to make 500HP? I'd also guess that I have near 15,000$ in it.

just some food for thought -

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFR-1450/ HEADS -1840.95
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ESP-B14003030/ROTATING ASSEMBLY - 1667.95
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DRT-31385235/BLOCK - 2667.95

Just those parts alone are nearly 6200$. That doesn't include any of the valve train, machine work, oil pan, intake, injectors, gasket set, balancer, or accessories.

[fbodyjohnny]

if i can go 331 built by woody, and easily push 500 at the wheels without maxing out the supercharger, i will be straight. like i said before too, i even plan on going water meth to keep things cooled down and use less boost to make that power

[fbodyjohnny]

yes, i do understand that. but i dont want it and dont need it for my goal lol

[matts5.0]

You do understand that you dont make a whole lot of sense right? You can build a more streetable bigger inch 351 motor that will be stronger and prolly cheaper!

[fbodyjohnny]

if i ever get enough guts to go the more power route, than i will have an engine that can handle the extra step. but i really dont think im going to want more. 500 at the rear wheels is going to be quite enough for me to get used to. lots of money on tires, and lots of practice taking off and keeping it under control.

[fbodyjohnny]

why the fuck do you need a blower to make 500 hp? wtf

because i want an engine that is built in such a way to handle MORE power than what i want in it, AND, for the blower part, i just like it. i love all motor power too, trust me, but i love having boost... for a lot of reasons, cooler inlet air temps, better air/fuel delivery, ( if properly tuned ) and im sure someone else could explain my other reasons. me having a 331 built, with just the engine alone putting out close to 400, that means for me that i have 100 ish hp and even more torque to make with a supercharger without havin the extra cubes that i DONT WANT.... maybe,,, just MAYBE a 347. no 351 though... nada... zilch....

[fbodyjohnny]

trust me, i know what each and every one of you are tryin to tell me, and honestly, i agree with ya, but,, im not real big on wanting something crazy, i used to be,, i used to want a 363 c.i. and a twin turbo setup good for 800+ but i know,, with my dumbass, i would be out doin stupid shit with it like killing supras and vettes and fuckin with bikes on a daily basis... i dont need that lol... not in the time i have left in the army, and plus, i have to try and somewhat keep my record clean since iwant a nice government driving job once i get out... trust me,, i play A LOT out on the streets, but i do it with common sense, i only do it in areas I KNOW nobody will rat on me or areas i know are smooth and hardly any traffic... if im in town cruisin, no matter what the situation, i watch my surroundings and i take it easy. i dont need that much power, idk what my car is puttin down now with the paxton 1000 and the 306,,, but its honestly WAY FASTER than my 356whp cobalt ss i had.... and that bitch was fuckin FAST... videos on my youtube do it no justice, camera angle on the speedometer and how close it was makes it look slow, but that car scared me to a certain extent.... i know if i lined my mustang up with that cobalt from a 20 roll, i would eat that lil fucker alive.

[CRASH]

Wait, what?

LMAO ! I saw that too and almost commented on it.

-Aaron

[TENGRAM]

You'll want more the minute I eat your ass in my LS1

Wait, what?

[White90GT]

Not having read all this, my advice is a big bore with the 331 stroke to make a 347 with a 4.125 bore. Plenty of room left for rebuilds, plenty reliable for street driving and making serious power. 500 rwhp won't be enough, you know you'll want more, so build the shortblock to handle 1100 horsepower!

[CRASH]

i'm beginning to scratch my head.

God damn man, you're thinking about it way too much. There are way easier ways to make the power you're wanting than to spend $15k on just the engine.

Like Big Thumper said, go big Windsor. You can run about 9-9.5:1 compression, some AFR 205's, and a decent cam and your choice of power adder and make more than enough power.

-Aaron

[fordracing19]

A mild 408 makes tons of torque and has great drivability.

[Grape]

why the fuck do you need a blower to make 500 hp? wtf